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Old 09-24-2012, 10:12 PM
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I was thinkin 30% off was alot, but didn't know what profit margin was for hardscapes. I may give an immediate family member that deal but not a ****** installing pools.

I was kinda thinkin like grandview...he wants 30% off so he can tack 30% back on for himself.
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I attended a Vanderkoi (sp) seminar a few years ago and we went around the room and each contractor shared their net profit on a per job basis. The average was 18 to 22% (again, per job).

And that's about where we are with our hardscapes, sometimes 25%, sometimes 30%, but most of the time 18-22%.


LOL - so this guy claiming "30%" is just hilarious!!!!! It would be cheaper for me to not do the work at all (which we're not) and take the guy golfing for a day.


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Old 09-24-2012, 10:14 PM
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Sounds like someone needs to get punched in the throat.
Good ole Ben, so very eloquent. And to the point.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:20 PM
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Vander Koi is a great! Everyone needs to go listen to him.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:30 PM
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You should send him a bill for wasting your time reading and placing that in the trash can. Who would even mess with that..
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Got 2 options raise your price 30% more for him so he can have his little discount or tell him to kiss your a$$.
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If he's the general on the job then he's the bank too. Sounds like he's trying to make sure he has positive cash flow. At one job I work at the standard mark up is 5-6%. I may have to general an irrigation system and that would be about 9-10% because I will have to outlay quite a bit of money.
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But i bet he has so much work that he can keep you busy non stop and you will make more money than ever. SARCASM
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:55 AM
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Clearly someone thinks they're a baller. When I worked sales in a different industry, we'd always have big accounts sending out letters stating "in light of these challenging economic times all vendors will institute an immediate 5% price reduction or we will terminate their contracts." You'd be amazed how many companies (like the piece o' crap I worked for) would fall in line.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:56 AM
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There is a difference between a
Sub-contractor and a contractor. I am a contractor, who also does general contracting of small jobs.

I have a friend that owns a concrete business. He
Works for a couple home builders and he does alotta concrete work for one pool builder. My friend does not know the first thing about marketing. He does not know anything about writing a contract. he has no experience with working with the public. He has never had to sit down and design a job. All He does is report to lot number 29 and pours concrete. he doesn't even have a website, he doesn't need one.

So a bonefide sub contractor can work for much less money than a true Contractor.

This job at hand the pool company knows nothing about the logistics. I have to coordinate the materials, I have to coordinate with the home owner havin vehicles moved, and very possibly have to work with the adjacent property owner to allow us to drive our loader over a portion of their lawn. See, a true sub-contractor usually does not have to obtain materials, the GC supplies the materials.

Also, this guy is not aware of the required permit and what's involved with the county!

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:36 AM
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Out west I worked for a landscape co that dealt directly with the homeowner but had to give a 10-15% kickback to the pool co. We obviously just marked our prices up by that much. It's where I learned to sell - if your pricing is that out of line with the market you better be able to close or you're going hungry.
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