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Old 10-12-2012, 01:08 PM
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I own a 60 and a 72 Super Z of the same variety, math and physics on this do not lie on this. If both have 30 Hp Kohlers which turn the same RPM and the pulleys are the same the tip speed is higher on the 72 regardless of what Hustler's site say's. People need to sometimes trust their own eyes and common judgement over what others tell them.

That is why America is in this predicament!
Well, maybe you ought to call Hustler and tell them that they are wrong and that you'd be happy to straighten them out on their specs.

You have older SZ's. Maybe they did at one time have higher BTS's on the 72 inch version, but I doubt it. You are constantly promoting 72's over 60's etc, and that's fine by me, but just because you think that they're the best doesn't mean they are, or that they have the highest BTS. Each size has its own place. No one size is best.

You still havene't proven anything other than saying that you think they have the same sized pulleys, spindles etc. Only a 1/16" difference in pulley size at any one point on the deck or PTO could easily provide the difference in BTS posted by Hustler.

The thing is, you claim(ed) that the 72's have faster BTS, but none of the manu's that post the specs agree with you. Either they are the same for both deck sizes, or their 72's are slightly lower. Now I suppose you are going to tell us that they are all wrong, and you are right.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:21 PM
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I own a 60 and a 72 Super Z of the same variety, math and physics on this do not lie on this. If both have 30 Hp Kohlers which turn the same RPM and the pulleys are the same the tip speed is higher on the 72 regardless of what Hustler's site say's. People need to sometimes trust their own eyes and common judgement over what others tell them.

That is why America is in this predicament!
Dang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can measure tip speed with your eyes?
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:26 PM
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You don't know what you are talking about,enjoy your inferior Z.
All of my work and equipment has been pictured all over LS. Its time to put your money where your mouth is. Please post some pics of your work and equipment for all to see. Then we can decide whats inferior...
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:59 PM
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Well, maybe you ought to call Hustler and tell them that they are wrong and that you'd be happy to straighten them out on their specs.

You have older SZ's. Maybe they did at one time have higher BTS's on the 72 inch version, but I doubt it. You are constantly promoting 72's over 60's etc, and that's fine by me, but just because you think that they're the best doesn't mean they are, or that they have the highest BTS. Each size has its own place. No one size is best.

You still havene't proven anything other than saying that you think they have the same sized pulleys, spindles etc. Only a 1/16" difference in pulley size at any one point on the deck or PTO could easily provide the difference in BTS posted by Hustler.

The thing is, you claim(ed) that the 72's have faster BTS, but none of the manu's that post the specs agree with you. Either they are the same for both deck sizes, or their 72's are slightly lower. Now I suppose you are going to tell us that they are all wrong, and you are right.
I am a idiot sorry,the 60 uses smaller pulleys. They are around a half inch smaller.

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Old 10-12-2012, 07:11 PM
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Actually that gives me an idea, you can speed the blades up with slightly smaller pulleys and it will cut better at full stick but it could be dangerous as far as breaking a blade because of how many feet per second a 24 inch blade can travel. It could easily be figured out.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:14 PM
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All of my work and equipment has been pictured all over LS. Its time to put your money where your mouth is. Please post some pics of your work and equipment for all to see. Then we can decide whats inferior...
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I am not into it that much sorry.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:16 PM
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Well, maybe you ought to call Hustler and tell them that they are wrong and that you'd be happy to straighten them out on their specs.

You have older SZ's. Maybe they did at one time have higher BTS's on the 72 inch version, but I doubt it. You are constantly promoting 72's over 60's etc, and that's fine by me, but just because you think that they're the best doesn't mean they are, or that they have the highest BTS. Each size has its own place. No one size is best.

You still havene't proven anything other than saying that you think they have the same sized pulleys, spindles etc. Only a 1/16" difference in pulley size at any one point on the deck or PTO could easily provide the difference in BTS posted by Hustler.

The thing is, you claim(ed) that the 72's have faster BTS, but none of the manu's that post the specs agree with you. Either they are the same for both deck sizes, or their 72's are slightly lower. Now I suppose you are going to tell us that they are all wrong, and you are right.
The speed of the blade is determined by pulley size on the blade spindle and pulley size on the clutch.

Any other component on the deck is irrelevant.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:15 PM
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The speed of the blade is determined by pulley size on the blade spindle and pulley size on the clutch.

Any other component on the deck is irrelevant.
That's true. I was assuming that you knew that already, but should have been very specific I suppose.

BTW- it takes guts to come on and admit you're wrong. I respect that.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:47 PM
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What style belt does the newer Super z use for the pump drive?
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:48 PM
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That's true. I was assuming that you knew that already, but should have been very specific I suppose.

BTW- it takes guts to come on and admit you're wrong. I respect that.
I am always wrong so just get used to it.
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