Building Paver Patio on Slope - PICS

[JimLewis]

Yah, the deck was already there. That was the only thing in the back yard (other than weeds) when we started. I didn't have anything to do with the deck.

[Agape]

That's awesome Jim!
What pavers are those?

I love the stairs, I don't really prefer a long final drop to the ground much over 2 inches.

[JimLewis]

Thanks. Those are the Laffit Patio Slab pavers by Belgard (sold at Willamette Graystone).

[zedosix]

Other than the 7/9/3 its a nice job. Could you not just pull them out and place a flat armourstone rock there. It would really set the job off. Wouldn't take much to do that.

[Agape]

he could also paint the house, stain the deck,move the property to Hawaii, host a Tropicana swimsuit contest.......all of which would make the entire job look better......

[shovelracer]

We can all sit here and pick the little things apart or comment on things that they had nothing to do with, but in the end only a few things matter.

1. Is the customer happy?
2. Did they get paid the contract amount?
3. When they walk away is there any additional liability.

Leaving the stairs is an issue of safety and building code. Even if they physically did not touch the stairs, a condition exists that Jim's company is directly responsible for. They constructed the patio and set the grade elevation. In doing so they constructed a landing that is part of the stair system. The chosen elevation likely had something to do with surrounding area and deck footings, etc. In doing so they caused the lowest stair rise to be well out of code, even though it appears that the other 2 already constructed risers are off as well. The solution is easy and would have cost less than $100. There is a concern and even if no one cares right now, when grandma trips it will come up and someone will be to blame.

These guys generally appear to do nice work. It is important though for everyone to look at the big picture when they do a job.

[JimLewis]

Shovelracer,

I asked a question clear back in post #5 that you have chosen to totally ignore. You're really quick to criticize. But when I ask what you mean by your 7/9/3 thing, you won't even explain to me what that is. All I've gotten so far is two criticisms from you but absolutely no offer to help explain what it is that is upsetting you so much and how it should be fixed. Unless you're going to take a little time to explain the criticism and what you mean by your 7/9/3 step combo then how the heck do I know what to fix?

[zedosix]

Originally Posted by JimLewis

Shovelracer,

I asked a question clear back in post #5 that you have chosen to totally ignore. You're really quick to criticize. But when I ask what you mean by your 7/9/3 thing, you won't even explain to me what that is. All I've gotten so far is two criticisms from you but absolutely no offer to help explain what it is that is upsetting you so much and how it should be fixed. Unless you're going to take a little time to explain the criticism and what you mean by your 7/9/3 step combo then how the heck do I know what to fix?

He's referring to how many inches each step is, first one is at 7" next one 9" then 3".

[JimLewis]

Ok. So you're saying go back and fix the steps on the deck so that the steps are evenly spaced. Gotcha. Can do.

[Lite4]

Looks great Jim. A great piece of steel wall art would look very good in that big blank wall space space between the wood posts to or some sort of espaliered tree to fill up that big empty void and create some interest on that wall.