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Old 10-22-2012, 10:06 PM
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You buy the truck and depreciate over the same time .The truck technicality is now worthless to your business. And how much money did that truck make you in that time. And up here salt will eat your truck ,hard to keep a truck working for a long time. I just traded in a 2002 with 67k on it ,salt ate it.
Well hopefully after 5 years a 50K financed should "net" you 250000$, but I seriously doubt it can. Not to mention a 10k truck has the ability to preform the same duty as a 50k truck. At least you agree its a bad investment.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:18 PM
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Didn't say it was a bad investment. I worked for a company that had older trucks and you hoped they make it through the night plowing. I'm getting to old to be laying on the ground fixing stuff. Maybe down south your truck breaks ,your customers might not know if you show up late or the next day,you can make something up .When its snowing you better be ready. Yes I know a new truck can break too.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:24 PM
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Or they could continue paying the note from the cash reserve they still had while they actively search for more work or sell the equipment.
Hold on in the previous post you said if they don't have the cash it was ok to get a loan to buy a machine needed for that new account.

Now you say no problem they can just pay the loan from their cash reserve.

First you say get loans when you have no cash, then you decide presto changeo they have a cash reserve so all is good.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:33 PM
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Example: a person bought a car or a truck for instance and couldn't keep up the payments. They sell it to pay off the loan or the person who buys it assumes the loan. Ok, depending on what the vehicle is worth at the time maybe they had to kick in a few bucks but it wasn't the end of the world and the bank didn't send the storm troopers out to get them and their children. Hopefully they learned from the experience.

You sir are the one who needs to learn about the real world and lose the ignorance. If being debt free makes you feel warm and fuzzy that's your personal choice. But making the blanket statement as fact that debt will ruin your business just illustrates your ignorance.
Wrong again. Bank will not allow the sale of a car that has an outstanding loan unless the 2nd buyer can satisfy the original loan. There is no automatic assuming of the original loan by the 2nd buyer.

The bank will come after what ever they recovered on what they sold the repo'd car and will come after any part of the outstanding loan that the repo sale did not cover from the original buyer.

Then you gloss over how getting loans at low interest rates will be gone for a very long time. Making borrowing even more expensive.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:46 PM
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just for thought...new ztr 50% down 150mo. for 24 mos.....completly under warrantee for 24 months....no repair costs at all...just routine maintenance....trade in value at end of 24 mos. is 50% of cost....trade in again hence 50% down is the used machine this time....rinse and repeat...we have 6 ztrs and have been doing this for over 20 yrs...never repairs, almost never down time, always have a new machine....for 150 a month...now that machine will generate over 8k a month if you use it wisely...this is a hell of a ROI (return on investment) oh and dont forget to take full depriciation at tax time on the 50% part of the machine you used....sometimes i really wonder how people get as far as they do.....
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:49 PM
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just for thought...new ztr 50% down 150mo. for 24 mos.....completly under warrantee for 24 months....no repair costs at all...just routine maintenance....trade in value at end of 24 mos. is 50% of cost....trade in again hence 50% down is the used machine this time....rinse and repeat...we have 6 ztrs and have been doing this for over 20 yrs...never repairs, almost never down time, always have a new machine....for 150 a month...now that machine will generate over 8k a month if you use it wisely...this is a hell of a ROI (return on investment) oh and dont forget to take full depriciation at tax time on the 50% part of the machine you used....sometimes i really wonder how people get as far as they do.....
Interesting... good point tho
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:51 PM
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just for thought...new ztr 50% down 150mo. for 24 mos.....completly under warrantee for 24 months....no repair costs at all...just routine maintenance....trade in value at end of 24 mos. is 50% of cost....trade in again hence 50% down is the used machine this time....rinse and repeat...we have 6 ztrs and have been doing this for over 20 yrs...never repairs, almost never down time, always have a new machine....for 150 a month...now that machine will generate over 8k a month if you use it wisely...this is a hell of a ROI (return on investment) oh and dont forget to take full depriciation at tax time on the 50% part of the machine you used....sometimes i really wonder how people get as far as they do.....


you can't make posts on here that make sense.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:57 PM
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Interesting... good point tho
we dont look at it as debt.....its part of the cost of doing business...if we didnt do it this way we would be spending more in the long run on hydro/engine repairs ect. ect.....this method has worked very well for us for over 20 yrs... the key is to keep the machines in top condition so you get 50% value at end of 24 mos....we also keep maint. records for each machine that we include when we trade/sell at the end of the 24 mos.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:59 PM
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you can't make posts on here that make sense.
you are right about that....LOL
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:14 AM
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you are right about that....LOL
That's because no matter what you say there will be somebody who has their mind made up that you are wrong and won't take logic or common sense for an answer.
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