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Old 10-25-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Landscape Poet View Post
Before starting in this industry...or any industry as a Owner....I think some basic business courses would be in the potential Owners best interest. I think understanding business as a whole, accounting, marketing, Human Resources, Business and yes even finance are needed to achieve greatness in industry assuming that everything else falls in place.

True Story - There was this guy who worked for the worlds largest retailer after attending college and getting a degree in Mgmt with a specialization in HR. This retailer ensured that the guy was very very well compensated for running their stores. He did this for a almost a decade, working crazy amount of hours each week, because he was under the illusion that the stores he managed were his, as the company would want him to believe. So he ran the stores like they were his, working his tail off, working crazy hours, putting the company first before family events etc. This was his store after all, he would reap the benefit right?

Until one day when the company started making changes, changes that effected how this guy could run "his store" from personnel and their wages to how his bonus structure was set up, no longer making it his store.

So this guy thought of a plan, a risky plan but one he thought he could make work. You see he had always enjoyed working outdoors, had did several properties even though working crazy hours for this retailer for years, as it was his relaxation time.

This guy put his plans into place, asked for a transfer to Florida from the retailer where he wanted to open up shop on his own, start his own business. And so it happened. This guy worked for the retailer for the amount of time required to ensure they paid for the closing cost on his home, his moving expenses etc per his relocation contract and he left that retailer.

Now this guy was in a environment in which he was not familiar, in was FL, not the midwest he had lived in most of his life, so prior to leaving the company, he researched a lot on the internet from sites like U of F IFAS, went to the library and crammed what he could into his head from landscape books, asked question every where including here on lawnsite, even had some senior members of the site poke fun at him for asking silly questions. You see he did not understand everything about FL and its landscape environment, but he knew he understood business.

The end result...this guy owns his own landscape and maintenance company in Florida, owns all his equipment outright, pays his employee a respectable wage, is liquid enough that if need be he could pay cash for his a duplicate of his entire set up tomorrow and still have enough to cover his overhead for a couple of months without any additional income arriving.

The reason this guy made it, he understood business, not that he understood landscaping better than anyone else. He understood the important things in business like ROI, Networking, Gorilla Marketing , CONTROLLED GROWTH and OMG CASHFLOW. The overly simple things that are not sometimes so simple that allow many to fail in this industry. The stuff many fail to take time to review because they are rushing off to the next dollar to chase that dollar, because they are going to be the next Valley Crest!
Would this person be you by chance?
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sjessen View Post
Would this person be you by chance?
Just some lawn turd I know.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:21 AM
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Mr. Scott Barnes,
Cause lawn mowing is not that much fun an you do not make enough money to buy fancy sports cars an boats no matter how hard you work.
This is a very interesting comment, the reason it is so interesting to me is, you've been a member for 2 years, and have over 7600 posts, when the heck do you actually go out and work?

I have done extremely well, in my opinion, in the past 7/8 years "lawn mowing", if you "lawn mowed" as well as you posted you could have a fancy car.....personally I got into real-estate, which to me is even more fun then being a landscaper. If you go find my other post I put up to night you'll see you can make money.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:34 AM
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Darryl Gesner........I thought I was doing well and saving $$$'s by getting the quart, and refilling the little bottles so the guys don't mix wrong.

I'm gonna have to step it up and price the 5 gallon pails. Though that would take 2 summers to blow.

Another money saving by the gallon.........learned something new today. Now I can go to bed happy.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 94gt331 View Post
Alot of guys start this type of buisiness because anyone can cut grass. But they start and soon enough realize, they can't afford to run a legitimate buisiness. It takes so much work to make a good living at this and they probaly don't have the actual drive to go find work to keep them busy enough. Plus the winter time makes it even harder to stay in buisiness if you don't save, save, save. Alot of these guys probaly are happy to go back to work for someone after a few months.

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Old 11-04-2012, 10:41 AM
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personally I got into real-estate...
Wow! I'm really impressed. There is some other guy here that said he even owned buildings with elevators!

I could buy "real estate" and buildings with elevators too and put them on my credit card. Not because I have a large credit limit but because they are so cheap.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:57 AM
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I've gotten back into real estate as well. Simple deals. Short sales that can be cleaned and sold quickly below market value. The days of big 5 digit profits are long gone. Houses are selling but lenders are ultra picky on condition. Fixer uppers aren't getting financed these days. Some days I feel like I'm juggling ten chainsaws, but reward comes with responsible risk.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Doin_It View Post
Darryl Gesner........I thought I was doing well and saving $$$'s by getting the quart, and refilling the little bottles so the guys don't mix wrong.

I'm gonna have to step it up and price the 5 gallon pails. Though that would take 2 summers to blow.

Another money saving by the gallon.........learned something new today. Now I can go to bed happy.
I originally had a couple quart bottles of Opti-2 that have dispensers on them, but squeezing the bottles was kind of a pain, so now I just pour one into the other and refill from my gallon bottle now and then.
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