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Old 11-07-2012, 05:04 PM
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Gunite Pool Coping

Used Unilock Brussels Block Fullnose on the beam of a gunite pool (Pool is 40yrs old). For some reason the beam is different thicknesses all around. The pool is "L' shaped with lots of straight edges, some of these edges have the coping over hanging toward the outside of the pool which will cause the ground to pop these pieces off most likely.

Have the option of cutting the stone off, but will not match around the pool. Have also heard to support the rear edge with styrofoam glued to the pool.
Will be adding an expansion joint between the coping and interlock aswell.

Any recommended solutions?
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:07 PM
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i have no clue what a brussel block is, we dont use that brand.

But you may wanna go with a shorter unit.

Or - what was used previously for the coping? May wanna use the same stuff.






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Old 11-08-2012, 08:00 PM
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No previous coping really, just a very thin piece of stone that was heavily parged at one point.

Will be using this product:
http://unilock.com/default/products/...sselsfullnose/


The overhang toward the pool deck ranges from 2" to 0.5". Tried to play with the overhang inside the pool but you can only do so much. Am I over concerned that they may pop off?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:07 PM
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I took this picture today just for you. The lens on my phone was dirty so the picture is fuzzy.

The walls of this gunite pool are non-consistant in width, as you can see.

They had about 2.5 to 3 inches of mortar under the coping.

This pool had an automatic pool cover, so the coping overhung the edge quite a bit (for the track to mount under the coping).

Not sure how it would look for you, but you may wanna have the coping overhang the edge, similar to the picture. This way the back of the coping is away from the soil and won't heave.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:29 PM
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Best bet is to pour a cement sub deck and bond the fullnose to it. This way you can include a perimeter brick around it as well and be assured that it won't fail.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:52 PM
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I would say you may be overly concerned. If you give the coping an 1.5" reveal on the pool side you won't have enough over the other end to have a problem. You could also put a trench of clean stone around perimeter so that at least it's not soil it's sitting over then just top soil or pave over that. U should be fine
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:03 PM
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Best bet is to pour a cement sub deck and bond the fullnose to it. This way you can include a perimeter brick around it as well and be assured that it won't fail.
Not sure what a subdeck is.

But the pool ain't movin (sometimes they do float, but thats a whole other can of worms). And if a subdeck consists of placing concrete along the edge of the pool's walls - then that subdeck will float with the ground. That is, if that's what a subdeck is.


I think VTScaper hit the nail on the head. Let the coping overhang (sorta like in the pic), gravel is a good idea - that way water could drain.






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Old 11-08-2012, 10:06 PM
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You could dowel the concrete to the pool so it wouldn't move with the ground
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:12 PM
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You could dowel the concrete to the pool so it wouldn't move with the ground
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You could, but I would not advise it. Gunite is soft. And can crumble easily. I'm no expert of structural integrity of gunite. Don't know the first thing about it. But I do know it sure does hammer quickly and easily, compared to concrete.
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Oh ok i thought it was similar to concrete. So DO NOT dowel it lol
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