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Old 11-19-2012, 06:54 PM
Sharps_lawn&landscaping Sharps_lawn&landscaping is offline
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Is this guy a lowballer?

We mow one larger property with wide open areas. Estimated around 20 acres and it takes two guys almost six hours . It's priced 650 a week if it was bi weekly it would be double.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:45 AM
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A little more detail about the account and specs would be helpful, but in the end, this industry is coming down to price. I know people will disagree, but if push comes to shove and the potential customer sees things as apples to apples, all he/she/they have to go by is price.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:16 PM
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I argee with Sean, you have to know your market and that is not yours. I don't even bid properties like this for that reason. I can tell you I am not the cheapest but this last year was record breaker for us.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:27 PM
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Thanks guys! I agree maybe its to early to go after these big jobs. But if nothing else it was a learning experience for me. I think I'm going to stick with what I have already. I'm currently studying for my pesticide license and I'm going to concentrate on growing that side of my business. Maybe year 3 I will try to break into large commercial properties.

Thanks for all of the advice.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:30 PM
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To answer your original question, yes the other company lowballed the bid.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM
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I hope for the winning bidder that he has things figured out. If not he could have made a big mistake. Never know if he defaults on the contract I may get a call.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:58 AM
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This happened recently to us. Five bidders, 3 were in the ballpark, one was sky high, and the other was around 15k short. Come to find out the owner had gone on vacation and let his foreman bid for him. The owner looked at what he bid on and was less than thrilled and asked to withdraw his bid. It happens, some guys can work with the bid and other guys can't wait to get out of it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:30 AM
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Commercial jobs around me have been bid down so bad that they are no longer disireable.

I know of one factory, 60 Ac open with no trimming $1200 a week.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:07 PM
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I kinda get the same feeling around here also jackal. I've read alot about "lowballers" on here and even tho my first couple of jobs I was one. It didn't take me long to figure out I screwed up. I was kinda glad for the drought in my area. No more lowballing for me ! If its a break even bid I would rather stay home with the kids.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:04 AM
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That is not really what I consider lowballing. The lcos that mow factories have ins, pay workmans comp, and taxes. The guys that own the company dont do the labor and they make a small profit on their investment. You have to figure out if you can make a worthwhile profit at that rate.

Lowballers are guys that are not paying taxes, have no ins and pay employees in cash. They can do the same jobs that you do for half the money and still make the same profit.
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