seo

[jonthepain]

Originally Posted by fakie99

...it's the off page stuff (link building, etc) that really does the trick. i have seen sites rank #1 for the terms i am targeting, and they only have a very simple flash intro page with little to no keyword text and their company name as their title tag!

there's less of that now, after Penguin.

but Penguin hurt a lot of legit sites, too. a couple of mine, for instance

[headz77]

Duekster- MANY of those sites are horrible to deal with. That's why a lot of people use a service to correct listings. Your experience sounds surreal though!
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[tonygreek]

Originally Posted by fakie99

i hadnt heard of citations either, but it sounds like PR for a website more or less - i will check out the company you mentioned. sounds promising.

Not PR, but a corroboration of your business' legitimacy.

[tonygreek]

Originally Posted by headz77

Duekster- MANY of those sites are horrible to deal with. That's why a lot of people use a service to correct listings. Your experience sounds surreal though!
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It's your contact info, especially via your free listings on their sites, that precipitate those, so whether you hire it out, or do it yourself, you'll get the calls.

[Duekster]

Hence the warning.

Someone recommended a link with a link. I am just saying what happened.

Maybe I should hire hot frog.

[fakie99]

found a pretty good site that summarizes local directories to list your business. it'll take a while to list on all of these, but worthwhile i think...

http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6...rectories.aspx


jim

[lkendall]

Originally Posted by tonygreek

Thanks for the clarification, lkendall. Your original post read more as you're a satisfied client and less as someone who just hired them.

There have been several people who have posted on here, or pm'd me, asking for input on what their SEO company is really achieving for them. Of those, a few were paying $150-$700/month, being strung along, and actually had nothing accomplished. Jut wanted to make sure this wasn't a path you were going down.

wanted to give you guys an update.. it has been exactly one month since I began my service .. For my 9 keyword phrases that i chose, neither of the 9 were in the top 100 on google, bing, yahoo the day i started.. as of today I got my 1st keyword on page one of bing, and all the other keywords are ranked in the low 20's on every search engine.. that's within the 1st month, I am increasing on google at a fast rate

[jonthepain]

that's great!

google "organic lawn care raleigh" and several other keywords and you'll see where I'm at.

[JBMohler]

Hey guys, I dont come here much, I was going to chase the hardscaping at one point, but decided to stick with chimneys. Anyhow,

John the pain, your site has recent links here:
http://le-denicheur.blogspot.com/
http://fhtmsecrets.com/blog/
http://soshable.com/twitter-retweeting/

Seo is supposed to be reaching out to others in similar industries building relationships for backlinks, guest postings, whatever. What seo usually is-is 250-500 word articles on a network. Every 400, 700, 2000 bucks you get a half dozen articles on a network. It works, esp if they take precautions to hide their footprints, it works for now anyways. Someday it will be just spam and ignored.

The bad seo is complete outsourced links to india. Even the better of the outsourced services are still easily spotted, spammed to death and move keywords only due to link velocity. Once you stop adding keywords, you plummet as google doesnt see you as "news" any more and decides you are old and irrelevant.

Not saying this is what your guy is doing, but you should have a clear understanding of how he is building your seo link profile with. It should be a varied, natural looking keyword profile, as well as a diverse backlink profile. You should strive to have links in good neighborhoods that will be good links in the future as well.

[jonthepain]

well i've been #1 for the last three years running, pre- and post-panda and penguin, so whatever it is he's doing, works for me.

more important than that, however, is that the phone rings. #1 wouldn't mean anything to me if it didn't make the phone ring.

where's your site in the serps?