Register free!
Search
 
     

The Green Industry's Resource Center


Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #71  
Old 12-05-2012, 07:11 PM
CutterCutter CutterCutter is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WV
Posts: 74
I don't think I could do this kind of work if it was year round. In my area it's lawn services from the middle of March to the middle of November. I'm in bad need of a break by the end of the season. There are people who do snow removal here but the snowfall is so uncertain in my area I've never wanted to be bothered with it.

As for billing it's per service. The jobs are either weekly or bi-weekly and unless it's raining big time I show up on the appointed day. Additional services are billed whenever they are performed. I do have some weekly customers that get billed every other week just for convenience.

I know another LCO who bills all customers at the end of the month for whatever services were performed during that month. How can you wait that long for your money?
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 12-05-2012, 07:31 PM
MDLawn MDLawn is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western NY
Posts: 1,284
So you're sending a bill each and every week?
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 12-05-2012, 08:11 PM
hi_speedreed hi_speedreed is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Charleston, WV
Posts: 404
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDLawn View Post
So you're sending a bill each and every week?
Posted via Mobile Device
What I bet he meant is when he is done the customer walks out and hands him payment. He doesn't actually send them an invoice.

Billing a weekly customer every other week probably means they pay him on payday as most working folks get paid eow.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 12-05-2012, 08:41 PM
MSeals MSeals is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Camden, SC
Posts: 41
In my area, majority of us bill monthly with 12 mo contracts. These usually include pinestraw twice a year, fert, and hedge trimming. Deffinatley the way to go in this area. Of course we still have the ones who prefer paying onsite. Either way is fine as long as I'm payed. Monthly is just easier imo on the customer as our bill will become a routine just like their rent/mortgage and so on.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 12-05-2012, 09:14 PM
cpllawncare's Avatar
cpllawncare cpllawncare is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 2,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA Quality Lawn & YS View Post
IDK, having FL guys telling northern guys to bill warm season services over 12 months in equal installments is a bit absurd. The way I bill works just fine for me. We don't have a year round warm season here FL dudes. What you do works for you thats fine, but total different deal up here. I'd tell you to try it sometime but wearing shorts in below 0 temps might be tuff on ya
I didn't read anything like that, I read that the FLA guys recognized they were in a unique situation and the northern guys couldn't bill the same way, I'm fairly deep south and we're still going strong, mostly landscape projects but still working everyday and still billing year round, IDK how you guys up north survive. It's in the 70's down here hope yall don't freeze to death up there, what's left of you that is, we're seeing tons of new accounts from the yanks moving south, thanks guys for the work, keep on sending them our way.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 12-06-2012, 07:33 AM
yardguy28 yardguy28 is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,465
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutterCutter View Post
I don't think I could do this kind of work if it was year round. In my area it's lawn services from the middle of March to the middle of November. I'm in bad need of a break by the end of the season. There are people who do snow removal here but the snowfall is so uncertain in my area I've never wanted to be bothered with it.

As for billing it's per service. The jobs are either weekly or bi-weekly and unless it's raining big time I show up on the appointed day. Additional services are billed whenever they are performed. I do have some weekly customers that get billed every other week just for convenience.

I know another LCO who bills all customers at the end of the month for whatever services were performed during that month. How can you wait that long for your money?
simple. there is enough money in reserve for one thing. as said in previous posts. I have enough money in the bank both in personal and business accounts that I could afford to take a whole year off from work.

I can't see collecting payment each week when services are complete. not all clients are home when I'm there. in fact most of my clients aren't home when I come.

just because I'm solo doesn't mean I don't try to be as professional as I can. do you think the guys who have crews of employees collect there payments after the crews finished each week?

I guess for all the surprise you have that guys can wait a month to collect money I have that same surprise that guys can't wait more than a week. everyone should have money saved up. you should never be in a situation personal or business that you need the money right away or it will break you. this statement is of course a general statement not taking into consideration an economic situation. more for when things are on the up and up.
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 12-06-2012, 06:11 PM
cpllawncare's Avatar
cpllawncare cpllawncare is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 2,647
. How can you wait that long for your money?[/QUOTE]

If your running your business like a business it's called a operating budget, you can't run a business paycheck to payckeck, you have to have a budget, if your not runnning a budget your going to be out of business soon. You must be one of those $25 a cut guys LOL
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 12-07-2012, 06:49 PM
TinMan1's Avatar
TinMan1 TinMan1 is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SC
Posts: 519
Quote:
Originally Posted by yardguy28 View Post
I'm always surprised at the opinions of how to bill clients. and to me what seems simple seems to be complicated to others.

I have always done the work for the month and invoiced for the work performed at the end of the month. if I only cut grass twice that month for $32 per cut then they receive a $64 invoice. if I did 4 cuts plus pruned shrubs for an hour at $35 per man hour then they receive an invoice for $163. if no work was done no invoice is sent.

guess it gets into how you manage your money in my opinion. I have enough saved up at all times and manage it where I don't need to actually be receiving checks every month of the year. I don't need a certain amount of money coming to me 12 months out of the year. the amount is the same whether it comes to me in 6 months, 9 months or 12 months. I still receive the same end total.

in the end I personally will take payment any way I can get it. I have some clients who are actually home and pay me when I'm done each week. most pay me on a monthly basis after I send them an invoice.

I have yet to have anyone pay a whole year up front or ask for a 12 month payment plan.
This is pretty much how we do it. Bi-weekly billed at the end of the month. 4 week months are 2 cuts 5 week months are 3 cuts. At $25 a cut, one month is $50 the next month is $75. I hand them an Invoice at the last cut of the month and they write me a check or give me their credit card that I run on-scene.
Sometimes I leave the invoice with them and they mail me a check the next week. More than 10 days after invoice is a $10 fee.
Works for us
__________________
2006 Chevy Crew 2500 Duramax Z71
2006 Chevy Crew 1500 Z71
mowers
2009 John Deere Z925A
2010 John Deere Z445
2004 Exmark 36" Metro
21" HRB216 Honda
misc
6.5x12 w/curb gate
Stihl BR420
Redmax 8001
Echo SRM230
Stihl FS90
Echo HC150
Shindaiwa LE260
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 12-07-2012, 07:07 PM
jrs.landscaping's Avatar
jrs.landscaping jrs.landscaping is online now
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 2,336
QUOTE]If your running your business like a business it's called a operating budget, you can't run a business paycheck to payckeck, you have to have a budget, if your not runnning a budget your going to be out of business soon. You must be one of those $25 a cut guys LOL[/QUOTE]

You mean you can't run a business on payday loans? Up here we can go 5-6 months with minimal income, bills still have to be paid You're absolutely right, too many people working for beer money with no clear business goals. The guys that can't operate one week without income are the ones that will have their stuff on CL next season.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 12-07-2012, 07:27 PM
yardguy28 yardguy28 is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,465
I agree. if you have no money in reserve and have to have money coming in weekly then I fail to see how you can stay in business long.

I get checks on a weekly basis after invoices are sent out but sometimes they sit on my desk in a safe place for a month before they are deposited. I'm not running to the bank weekly for just a few checks.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:31 PM.

Page generated in 0.07884 seconds with 10 queries