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Old 12-13-2012, 10:22 PM
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biggest problem is this time of the year when work runs out, and there's no snow either. You can only save so much money for winter.
pay your bills ahead of time if you can, I know it works with advertising, insurances, cell phones, pretty much everything except credit cards i think. that's what i do, I wrote my check for december's shop rent at the end of november, and wrote january's in the first week of december, now i have no larger bills do until january 10th and i have money that should be in from plowing and mowing by then.
but more work would be nice, but if i actually saved a single penny i would have been fine, but i didn't start embracing that until my work ended pretty much.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:36 AM
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:31 PM
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Frustrated

Our issue is....making a living. We charge anywhere from $200-$475 for leaf clean ups. Basically the going rate here in NJ. It takes at least 4 hrs to complete a clean up properly.

We try to take 1 or 2 laborers, which costs us $10/hr. for each laborer also the going rate here in NJ. By the time we finish our cleanups and pay for fuel our employees are making more than us? I don't get it? Feels like no matter how hard we try just spitting in the wind.

Much of the day is wasted going to get the trailer which is about 20 min. away from us (no where else to put and it's free). Then we waste more time dumping constantly as we are using an 8ft. bed (dump truck not working) Btw most times for cleanups we use the mower to mulch it down and blow it onto tarps and empty into the truck.

Any ideas besides buying new equipment since it just isn't in the budget right now?
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:55 PM
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Our issue is....making a living. We charge anywhere from $200-$475 for leaf clean ups. Basically the going rate here in NJ. It takes at least 4 hrs to complete a clean up properly.

We try to take 1 or 2 laborers, which costs us $10/hr. for each laborer also the going rate here in NJ. By the time we finish our cleanups and pay for fuel our employees are making more than us? I don't get it? Feels like no matter how hard we try just spitting in the wind.

Much of the day is wasted going to get the trailer which is about 20 min. away from us (no where else to put and it's free). Then we waste more time dumping constantly as we are using an 8ft. bed (dump truck not working) Btw most times for cleanups we use the mower to mulch it down and blow it onto tarps and empty into the truck.

Any ideas besides buying new equipment since it just isn't in the budget right now?
sounds like you need to charge more, what equipment are you using?
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:44 PM
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Ditch the 2 laborers (unless they are full time employees) and use that money to buy better equipment. I'd buy a debris loader and either make or purchase a good box. We found buying two good backpack blowers over the ones we were using saved us over 40 MH on cleanups this year, it's amazing how just spending 1k can really make money.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:53 AM
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The famous words "Since you're here can you..." (9 times out of 10 they don't wanna pay you extra)
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:51 AM
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Know the time it takes you to service the customers and have someone call your phone 5 - 10 minutes after that time. I've done this to customers after a scheduled meeting. I know the ones who have nothing better to do than talk for an hour. I have one of my guys call my phone, I tell the customer I need to take the call and excuse myself saying something came up and I need to be somewhere else RIGHT NOW. I'm sure there are other ways but this has worked for me in the past....
I think there's a phone app for this purpose...Fake call or something along those lines, I believe. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:06 PM
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People in general. Blaming us for running over gutters when the gutters are 10 ft in the landscape, ever think of the meter reader guy. People not paying and then say well your service was only worth X. More and more mower guys coming out of the woodwork. Prices less today than 5years ago. More demanding customers like today, not tomorrow. Just a few thoughts for now!
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:00 AM
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People in general. Blaming us for running over gutters when the gutters are 10 ft in the landscape, ever think of the meter reader guy. People not paying and then say well your service was only worth X. More and more mower guys coming out of the woodwork. Prices less today than 5years ago. More demanding customers like today, not tomorrow. Just a few thoughts for now!
Yea I usually go off on the ones that think they set the price of my service, I own this damn company and I tell you what the price is not the other way around. This is more and more common for some reason, and I'm in small claims court now more and more I am not afraid to put a lein on your house and I let them know that along with a lawsuit.I have a lawyer that isn't afraid either, you HAVE to present yourself as a true professional not a guy with a mower, you have to have REAL service agreements with REAL letterheads, or people won't take you seriously.

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Old 12-16-2012, 12:10 PM
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Employee issues would be number one and the comment about being 4 mins late you have no idea how good you have it.

The kids today have cell phones attached to them and lazy streaks a mile wide.

Then there is just plain stupidity the inability to predict the predictable under any circumstances. Rocks at high speed = broken window so weed whacking at max rpms near gravel 10-20 feet from lots of glass is moronic.

Then there is wear and tear and I do not get much of that from abuse but that doesn't mean I have few repairs. Things wear out and break all the time. Now I can weld so metal issues are that big a deal. However the pain in the rear of driving 30-45 mins each way plus time at the dealer and fuel used so a good 2 hours of my time to chase down a 5 to 10 dollar part that drives me nuts.

Then there is the office it seems it takes just a few days to fall massively behind in phone calls and the amount of paperwork to sort through in a span of just a week can be astonishing.

The late payers and worse the no payers can really put a cash flow crunch on you.

Managed to go the year with out buying any tires other then a few rear tires for 3 of the mowers and one caster wheel. But the big ones on trailers and trucks not this season. So next year I need 8 trailer tires and at-least 4 truck tires and the year after that will get really ugly.
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