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Old 12-23-2012, 07:40 PM
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Ya had to take less time otherwise we be lookin at over 5/6 grand in cutting for a average walk.
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Correct. The overall job was over $6500.00.

Work sold and performed Dec through Mid march are done for winter discount rates. Off the top of my head I'd say they saved around $500 maybe as much as $700 by doing the work during off peak season.

It's just like the construction of a Ryan Home vs a home built stick by stick. Always a difference in cost. And quality.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:45 PM
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What about the base?
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:48 PM
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WOW. 36 man hours to cut in that walkway....Where I work 36 man hours would have been the entire job.
I would have had the entire soldier course cut in 2 hours, with a guy following behind me swapping out cuts and laying in soldier course, with a guy following behind him installing snap edge. done and done.
And don't so anything about quality of work versus production or anything like that. Go click the link in my sig, you can see the quality of work we do.
We just do it much faster and better than anyone else. haha.
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Lets keep it real buddy. Not competing to see who's manhood is bigger.

Veteran contractors come in here whining about being underbid. Because rookie contractors have no clue why they're Gettin into. Now some newbie will think that's truly possible.

This border could not have been mitered in 2 hrs as you claim. Just not humanly and physically possible. Reality is that saw can only cut so fast.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:52 PM
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What about the base?
That's a vague question. Do you mean excavation and base installation? Or are you asking what the base is?

There are two walks at this property that we did at the same time. Base prep was routine. Both walk's bases measured, marked, installed compacted, leveled, and remarked again for sand application in about 10 hrs.

Lets try to stay on subject please. Table saws. We can talk about production of different aspects of paver installation in a different thread I good at talkin about production, that subject is part of my sales presentation

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Old 12-23-2012, 07:55 PM
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With regards to the base width on the left vs the right, looks like you thought the walkway was going more to the right? On the left it doesn't look like there is much of a base extending past the border
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:01 PM
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Our bases always extend a min of 6" past the edge of the pavement. If there is a elevation drop - then it's accordingly more. When we do a job we do not install the base exactly where the finished product is to be. We used to do that but I found that all the measuring wasted time. So sometimes there will be way too much aggregate In places. It all gets worked out as we go.

Just like in our beginning days we used to install edge restraint first. Then, we realized that wasn't productive.

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Old 12-23-2012, 08:16 PM
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I need to get my ruler out!
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:36 PM
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Lets keep it real buddy. Not competing to see who's manhood is bigger.

Veteran contractors come in here whining about being underbid. Because rookie contractors have no clue why they're Gettin into. Now some newbie will think that's truly possible.

This border could not have been mitered in 2 hrs as you claim. Just not humanly and physically possible. Reality is that saw can only cut so fast.
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Nah of course not, if we were competing you'd clearly lose.


What are you even talking about? Some newbie will think what is truly possible?
Just because you old farts are still doing installations the ancient ways and can't do it fast and efficient like the young bucks are doing it these days.

Maybe that's why your getting underbid. Some people have faster and easier methods with their installations.

How long was that walkway in your picture? 50' max?
Those were clay pavers?
At most, that would have taken me 3 full hours of actual cutting.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:39 PM
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So much for not turning your computer on until next week.

You definitely don't have a full 6" on the bottom left side of the picture.
I don't think that spot is even wide enough for snap edge.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:35 AM
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Theirs no way I could do all that cutting in 2 hrs or anyone on my crew. I would need more than 1 saw going. And when putting a proposal together I would never factor just 2 hrs. For that amount of cutting that's just silly.
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