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Old 12-30-2012, 02:44 PM
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Is there a way to cut a road / path down there and get a bigger skid steer in there?
You might spend a day or two doing it but save 5 on the back side.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:44 PM
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I have some pictures of the project. I'll upload them. Hold on.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:46 PM
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I have some pictures of the project. I'll upload them. Hold on.
Then it should be simple (Estimated hours to complete X Labor rate)=Fixed cost

Edit: Fixed labor cost
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:46 PM
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I have done some work with them, last time was 25 years back i think. it boils down to a lot of hand work.

Gabions used to come in pieces and you assembled them with no.9 galv wire.

The cobble had to be hand sorted and placed where there was basicaly no voids.

I would use a demo hammer with a rod driver to put the 7/8" steel in.

The hand labor can be the killer.

If you have any inspections/inspectors they can make or break these jobs.

I dont remember what size we used offhand
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:47 PM
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The 304CCR is a decent sized machine. I would look at breaking up that cinder block wall and using it as part of the gabion fill.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:50 PM
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The 304CCR is a decent sized machine. I would look at breaking up that cinder block wall and using it as part of the gabion fill.
The pictures won't upload for some reason, but the engineer says gabion rock (4-6 inchs) must be used.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:50 PM
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I have done some work with them, last time was 25 years back i think. it boils down to a lot of hand work.

Gabions used to come in pieces and you assembled them with no.9 galv wire.

The cobble had to be hand sorted and placed where there was basicaly no voids.

I would use a demo hammer with a rod driver to put the 7/8" steel in.

The hand labor can be the killer.

If you have any inspections/inspectors they can make or break these jobs.

I dont remember what size we used offhand
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I could not imagine some of those gabion cages I have seen being hand filled.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:54 PM
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I could not imagine some of those gabion cages I have seen being hand filled.
The engineer said we should fill the gabion baskets by hand, but I do not see it possible to move 208 ton of a rock by hand.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:55 PM
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The pictures won't upload for some reason, but the engineer says gabion rock (4-6 inchs) must be used.
It will be an interesting project. Keep in mind the risk reward aspect. More risk the more reward you need. Do not bid this as straight hours. I am sure there will be some site restoration needed even if it is not in the contract.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:57 PM
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If you use those super bags, you can open the bottom and kind of spread the rock around. You can then sort through moving the rocks around to different baskets. Repeat until all are full.
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