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Old 01-08-2013, 01:59 PM
Darryl G Darryl G is offline
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There's one guy in my area that comes here from "his country" every year to do lawn care. He does pretty decent work but does lowball bigtime. I screen my customers pretty carefully and actually refer all the bottom of the barrel customers to him...I figure if I tie him up doing the crappy lawns for the PITA customers he won't have time to go after my target customers. I've talked to him about his pricing before and the way he looks at it he's still making a lot compared to what he can in his country...he says "in my country I am a rich man."
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:42 PM
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well i understand this is a different situation. the guy you are talking about is from another country but i find it awefully nervy of you to talk to someone else about there pricing.

if someone were to talk to me about my prices i'd laugh and tell them to get lost.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:49 PM
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How do you know he didn't initiate the pricing discussion...jump to conclusions much?
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:47 PM
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well you do make a good point but your post makes it seem like you went up to him and tried to discuss his lowballing with him.

I don't generally if ever discuss prices with anyone. the most I say is my prices are what they are. if clients don't like them they can go else where. if my competition doesn't like them, tough.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:30 PM
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well i understand this is a different situation. the guy you are talking about is from another country but i find it awefully nervy of you to talk to someone else about there pricing.

if someone were to talk to me about my prices i'd laugh and tell them to get lost.
Darryl says he gives this foreigner work so it isn't like he bum rushed him yelling lowballer
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:00 PM
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Where I live it is a fact of life. You pretty much know prices cause they paste them all over your door all year long. My workers go home for the winter be it a two week vacation, one month and one guy is not returning until March.

They work hard. I have never had a client say one word to me but I do let them know that these are employees on a payroll.

Are there former H2B workers out in the wild? Absolutely they are out there. I am sure there are also what we fondly call wetbacks too. The former is less of a threat than the wild H2B landscape worker cause they are often well trained. I think however this is getting to be less and less of a problem
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:15 AM
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As long as we're talking about lowballers from another country,,, I wonder what they're thinking when they support Socialism in this country... Does it ever occur to them that the reason we used to be a rich country was because we used to be different from the poor countries of the planet???
As we raise prices we will be loosing work... Its already happening with various cutbacks by some customers and once again,,, only the Joneses will be "Keeping up with the Joneses"...
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:44 AM
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personally i ignore my competition completely. whether its novices, low ballers, or another professional.

i focus my time and energy on my business. set my prices where i need them to make a profit for me. put out the kind of quality i need to maintain the kind of clients who hire me.

i don't care what joe's lawn is charging down the street. i don't care how ed's turf is doing things. i'm not concerned with what kind of quality pro man is putting out.

what matters to me is what yardguy is charging, what kind of quality yardguy is giving.

i don't compete with the others. meaning i don't negotiate price or quality of work. if someone gets an estimate, it is what is. it does no good to tell me what the other guys gave you for estimates. i'll simply tell you to hire them then. i've had that happen i can't tell you how many times. i give an estimate, they think on it and i get a call telling me they found so and so to do it for this much. i tell them, well, hire them then. chances are they really didn't find someone with that price but i don't negotiate price or quality.
100% agree. I dont wiggle either. Could have lost a 20k contract last week when they told me i wasnt low bid...i wouldnt come down...but because they know my quality...they renewed anyway. I dont believe in senior discounts..or church discounts....or bald head discounts or baggy pants discounts. It cost me the same to maintain properties...no matter who you are.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:49 PM
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The lowballers that get to me are on the commercial side, properties that SHOULD be at $65 - $70 they cut for $25 because of the exposure of having commercial work
As for other companies, I try to be civil with them but some of them I can't deal with for various reasons, if we're at a walkthrough there are a few of them that will come over and talk. I have nothing against the competition, even the lowballers, if they want to make $25 PH cutting grass good for them
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