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Old 02-19-2013, 10:14 AM
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didn't take the time to look up the actual poster or post but the best one in this thread was the one that said you have to dress and look according to your profession.

we are outside all day working in the cold and heat. dealing with grass, dirt, mulch, leaves, snow, plants, wood, etc we sweat. if we are working hard and doing a quality job and have our schedules full we are bound to be a little dirty throughout the day and shouldn't have time to clean up before an estimate.

my opinion of a guy who showed up to give me a lawn estimate in khakis and polo with not a spot on them and smelled fresh and clean is either

a) he doesn't actually do the work, he's just the guy who goes around all day and does estimates and is possibly the owner.

b) he must not be very busy because he had time to shower and change clothes before coming here.

at any rate I don't think people expect LCO's to be wearing shirts and ties to do there work or estimates. it's expected they'd have jeans and t shirts covered in grease, dirt and grass stains. hell I don't even show up in khakis and polos when giving an estimate on rain days. in fact on rain days I don't even have a company t shirt on. if I'm nit working due to the rain I'm giving estimates in the clothes I plan on wearing for the day. normally jeans and some sort of t shirt that either has star wars stuff on it or some other logo of some type.
Unfortunately your opinion and what you think have nothing to do with reality. I at least have a clean company polo in the truck for estimates while working and dirty. Reality is people want a professional looking, clean and organized contractor working for them. Not a pig pen.

While working I would say your 100% right but not for a business meeting/estimate.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:24 AM
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Unfortunately your opinion and what you think have nothing to do with reality. I at least have a clean company polo in the truck for estimates while working and dirty. Reality is people want a professional looking, clean and organized contractor working for them. Not a pig pen.

While working I would say your 100% right but not for a business meeting/estimate.
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You are dead on. Getting dirty while on the job is unavoidable, but how one presents himself is a direct reflection of his character.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:13 AM
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Would you hire someone you didn't like?

Reality is relative to the individual...whether you're the service provider or a (potential) client.

If your potential customer doesn't like you for whatever reason(s), they'll likely not hire you.

Some may not hire you because you're too clean OR too dirty...too well-dressed OR too unkept. Too friendly OR not friendly enough.

Down the road, referrals are where you & your service speak for themselves - placing your foot in the door. And if/should you remind them of someone else they don't/didn't like/care for, well...it is what it is.

Pride & honesty coupled with reliably provided services is a firm foundational recipe that good folks will respect - and pay for. They will derive their own sense of pride out of this continual transaction.

A great client base takes time...as does ridding yourself of PITAs you'd rather not provide service for/to.

My bottom line: first feel comfortable in your own skin. Then dress yourself to be comfortable to present yourself. Would you hire someone you didn't like/respect?

In case you haven't noticed: Excuses are all too often self-serving.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:53 PM
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Unfortunately your opinion and what you think have nothing to do with reality. I at least have a clean company polo in the truck for estimates while working and dirty. Reality is people want a professional looking, clean and organized contractor working for them. Not a pig pen.

While working I would say your 100% right but not for a business meeting/estimate.
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wanna explain why I'm still in business year after year if showing up dirty to an estimate doesn't work?

I have always come dressed one of 2 ways for the 7 years I've been in business so far. either I have jeans and some character shirt on b/c it's my day off or a rain day or I stop somewhere along my daily route and probably have grass, gas and/or grease stains on my shirts or pants and a dirty face or finger nails.

I'm not saying the cleaned up way is the wrong way. I'm just saying there's more than one way to do things.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:05 PM
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wanna explain why I'm still in business year after year if showing up dirty to an estimate doesn't work?

I have always come dressed one of 2 ways for the 7 years I've been in business so far. either I have jeans and some character shirt on b/c it's my day off or a rain day or I stop somewhere along my daily route and probably have grass, gas and/or grease stains on my shirts or pants and a dirty face or finger nails.

I'm not saying the cleaned up way is the wrong way. I'm just saying there's more than one way to do things.
Most likely because you have no desire to expand beyond solo, are ok with your current income and are content with your living situation.
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Most likely because you have no desire to expand beyond solo, are ok with your current income and are content with your living situation.
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This much is true. To be fair, I must say that I am solo. However, I can command a dollar higher than the going rate in my market. The reason for this is professionalism, and yes--image has much to do with it. Clean uniforms, clean-shaven, and grammatically-correct speech are all tools in the "professional's" arsenal.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:32 PM
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This much is true. To be fair, I must say that I am solo. However, I can command a dollar higher than the going rate in my market. The reason for this is professionalism, and yes--image has much to do with it. Clean uniforms, clean-shaven, and grammatically-correct speech are all tools in the "professional's" arsenal.
Nothing wrong with solo! Six digit income can be done solo with the right accounts and systems in place. Two years ago was my first year not solo. I have two part time guys which at least one should be fulltime this year.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:07 PM
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this thread is hillarious.....thats completely stereo typing with the 2 picture choices there to choose from......of course the one guy looks more professional. Although that is putting him up against a moron. I personally would much rather see someone dressed for the proffession, the weather, and the ruggedness of the job. Ideally shorts, tank top or t shirt with logo, work boots (of course with good hygeine and work habits)......but deffinately not looking like a friggin concession worker at an amusement park either hahahahahaah
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:09 PM
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Most likely because you have no desire to expand beyond solo, are ok with your current income and are content with your living situation.
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I still do estimates year after year though. and I still get hired by people year after year.

true I'm content being solo but that doesn't mean clients don't come and go by one mean or another. so I'm still out there doing estimates.

90% of my clients are senior citizens. that's the generation some would say do care about how you look. but yet year after year I continue to get hired by this type of clientele.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:13 PM
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I still do estimates year after year though. and I still get hired by people year after year.

true I'm content being solo but that doesn't mean clients don't come and go by one mean or another. so I'm still out there doing estimates.

90% of my clients are senior citizens. that's the generation some would say do care about how you look. but yet year after year I continue to get hired by this type of clientele.
Most of the ones I've dealt with just want you to do it cheaper than the last guy, you could show up dressed like a clown and they wouldn't care as long as you had a lower rate. Maybe that's just the one's in my area
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