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Old 02-24-2013, 07:22 AM
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Everyone gets pissed when states step in and set application windows.
Why should the state have to tell a "professional" not to apply fertilizer and pesticides to frozen ground during the winter months?
Scotts started here on Feb 11th.
Customers are smarter then you think.
They know they shouldn't be getting apps under these conditions. That's where we just pick them off one at a time.
Enjoy 6 apps as long as you can before your state makes you stop. You guys that over apply will ruin it for everyone.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:49 PM
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Rod, I love jerking your chain. Sorry if it gets old.
Seriously, we let clients choose 4-6 aps and guide then to as many as they can afford.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:28 PM
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It actually gets real old


I just see so many lawn care companies that seriously don't have a clue and it really gets my crawl.
I don't have a problem with 6 apps if they are warranted and needed. say added insect or fung app etc
But to just set out with a 6 app program EVERY year in Ohio is insane
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:16 AM
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Don't be like us. Its very very really sad. (and profitable)
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Well said. rcreech is always trying to spoute off on threads about how more than 4 apps is robbing the customer. Much to make himself feel better because he probably can't get to more than four because of his mowing and landscaping. That sounds hate full rcreech but I say it with love.
Just messing w you. Summer apps are needed though IE spurge

To answer some of your questions

I'm going through the post office myself(every door direct mail).

Using Dimension or Prodiamine is ok in late February through March for our region. We're using Dimension and have had great results starting early.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:19 AM
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If...you sold a few new accounts this week...must be the time is right.
Always tricky to get the weather conditions right to induce potential customers to think about lawn care. You have to guess if the weather will be warm and sunny two weeks in advance.
Try to give them a reason to call--an early bird discount or coupon.
And the classic sales pitch--limited time offer--call now. Used often--because it works.
Be sure your photos are top-notch.
Be sure your brochures are at least as good--better if possible--than Tru Green.
Be sure you offer features that are better than truGreen, and be sure to point out how you are different (and better than TruGreen).

Be sure you have a high quality website to reinforce your costly mailings. And a top-quality person to answer the phone. After all it costs about $20 in mailing cost to bring in each phone call.
And get out there and measure the lawn and quote the program and price instantly, if not sooner. Be there; close the sale, before anyone else has a chance. You may need to work 4 to 9 pm so that you can catch both Mr and Mrs at home.
Your on it man! We sound like twins, we're doing all of that. Have a good spring!
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:14 AM
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Well said. rcreech is always trying to spoute off on threads about how more than 4 apps is robbing the customer. Much to make himself feel better because he probably can't get to more than four because of his mowing and landscaping. .
Actually you are way off as we don't offer mowing or do landscaping.
We are 100% apps and can still do it right.

All I am going to say is look at Purdue or Ohio State.
Why do you need to start n February?
We have over 2000 acct and don't start til mid to late March.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:47 AM
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Sounds like you have a nice set up. Purdue does say you can get your pre m out early and dimension is more heat activated anyway so it will sit there until needed. Nitrogen as you know isn't't such a big deal in the spring but we're still getting it down in April and May at a moderate rate.

Purdue recommends five apps one being summer. We offer 6. The 2nd summer app is to keep summer annuals and perennials in check. Works for us and our customers are happy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:18 AM
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Can u post the bulletin of where u got that information.

I have only seed Purdue recommend 3-4 apps and says to be careful when applying fertilizer during summer months.

Also would like to see the information on Dimension being applied in February.

Is this on Purdues web site?
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:13 PM
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Not sure where on their site it would be. I just got that from their professors and classes. Have a good spring
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:55 PM
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We do 6 apps but I'm in North Carolina and treat all the turf. Of the 6 only 3-4 apps are Fert. A total of 3-4 lbs N yearly depending on turf type. The rest is keeping weeds in check.
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