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Old 03-09-2013, 07:22 PM
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for free since they spent 4k+ on installation.
5k is CHEAP, i dont care how small

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"if louis vuitton purses had a pricing history of around $5 instead of $300... all other things being the same: material, durabilty, etc......

Would the woman still buy it?"

all things considered.....I dont know.

If all cadilac CTS had new MSRP of $12,999... would the current demographic average of its purchasers, still purchase it?

In my opinion, the only item with a true price to quality proportion, is toilet paper.

Last edited by RhettMan; 03-09-2013 at 07:28 PM. Reason: i was a bit harsh in this post, its not the ONLY item....good luck!
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:41 PM
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I have had some jack..... But....

Usually you would fix the system and then do an audit. After the audit you would explain the benefits of an upgrade.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:46 PM
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When i think about it, yall are all right.

I be's corrected
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:48 PM
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5k is CHEAP, i dont care how small

Questions of the day!

"if louis vuitton purses had a pricing history of around $5 instead of $300... all other things being the same: material, durabilty, etc......

Would the woman still buy it?"

all things considered.....I dont know.

If all cadilac CTS had new MSRP of $12,999... would the current demographic average of its purchasers, still purchase it?

In my opinion, the only item with a true price to quality proportion, is toilet paper.
But the orbit cost more than our pricing on a pgp? If 5k is cheap, i am moving to texas.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:54 PM
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Move to texas and you will meet folks like me.... Super nice but ill cut your throat

Ps we don't like outsiders...
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:59 PM
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But the orbit cost more than our pricing on a pgp? If 5k is cheap, i am moving to texas.
Its like this......

One time i asked a plumber about over chargeing (yet still being near bankrupt)---

he said: dont worry

75% of the problem is in your head....

So i charge 4 times as much now

Ferrari lives, oldsmobile, saturn, mercury are dead.
Which is more logical. Though no doubt you must stand out.
Being crazy is safer than being safer.

Unless you have govt ties, forget competing on price.
Go to the other end of the scale.

Last edited by RhettMan; 03-10-2013 at 12:05 AM. Reason: but remember, listening and believing me is highly dangerous, i usually dont even know what im saying
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:00 AM
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Move to texas and you will meet folks like me.... Super nice but ill cut your throat

Ps we don't like outsiders...
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and we joke alot..
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:20 AM
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Do you catch can all your audits?
Depends on the level of the audit.

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Sometimes they are really handy, particularly in large lawn area's. But not always necessary.
It is always necessary if you have any hope of developing a relatively accurate management plan.

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I don't always get the available time I would like to spend on houses + I hate giving people large bills.
Don't like giving people bills of any amount, but that is part of the job.

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Like if a customer told me they have a really wet section in there yard and a really dry section in there yard and they are on the same zone. I'm not entirely going to say that the zone needs to be split because microclimates are different, zone design is off and that a whole renovation is in order. I would state and suggest that for sure, but also give them the option . ' Hey , why don't I spend the next 20 minutes swapping some nozzles around and adjust the programming and we'll see how it goes for the next month or 2' . If you'd like, I can provide the cost to upgrade the zone. No matter what i'm doing I'm still increasing the effciency .
If that is an option I would do the same, and have. That said, there are cases (shade/sun) where a nozzle swap, while helping the shade problem, will create a new one when the pattern of the nozzle(s) span sun/shade areas. In that case, you haven't fixed anything, you have just wasted their money.

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The alternative , Let me audit your system and then I can provide you the cost of what it would take to upgrade the zone to it's maximum efficiency

Every situation is different and I just go by what I feel will best suit the customer .
My recommendations always come with options, however I spell it out straight too. While a recommendation to piecemeal a site might make me more money, it will usually cost them substantially more money in the long run. This is something I will explain to them along with their options. They can choose what suits them best for their budget and time frame. If they want to spread out a system upgrade over years, fine by me. Hit the most problematic water wasting zones first. One thing for certain, they will always get an honest assessment of their system without a sales pitch or hidden incentives.

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Old 03-10-2013, 11:23 AM
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I have had some jack..... But....

Usually you would fix the system and then do an audit. After the audit you would explain the benefits of an upgrade.
With a before and after audit you can show them the benefits.
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