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Old 03-23-2013, 08:00 PM
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That's silly. Sure you want to do it right.
But really why not core drill down to bed rock, then fill with epoxy? Much stronger than your method, and when the neighbor drives his Sherman tank over it, you won't get a call back. And in all reality since the pavers are sitting on concrete and not locked in by the sand from tamping I bet the pavers have a better chance of being flipped out (although very unlikely) from the edge restraint when walked on before the adhesive will fail.
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Why would you not tamp the pavers using my method? We always have. It's really no different than pavers set on an aggregate base.

If you glue the perimeter pavers - then when tamp the field, you have to be careful not to disturb the glued pavers.

And if the slab is uneven, with glue, you can't adjust for it. With bedding sand, you can.

Edge restraint anchored however you want. Pavers set on bedding sand. It's not theory

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Old 03-24-2013, 10:58 AM
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What if it's a raised concrete slab? Would the edging be exposed
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:25 AM
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Why would you not tamp the pavers using my method? We always have. It's really no different than pavers set on an aggregate base.

If you glue the perimeter pavers - then when tamp the field, you have to be careful not to disturb the glued pavers.

And if the slab is uneven, with glue, you can't adjust for it. With bedding sand, you can.

Edge restraint anchored however you want. Pavers set on bedding sand. It's not theory

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Ok sounds like were not on the same page with the install methods. You like using a larger border paver (thickness) and then using sand over the concrete with a standard 2 3/8 paver? If the concrete is in good shape, we go straight on top of the concrete with the field pavers on top of a textile fabric so there is no concrete to concrete 'clicking' (which can happen even after the poly sand is installed) And yes everyone.. poly sand used on a concrete overlay job... They have poly specifically for this application.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:26 AM
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Isn't that what grading/landscaping was invented for? Hiding the hardscapers's mess?!
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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For me if it was a standard 4" slab with no wire or rebar, think i would rip it out and install a traditional base. But thats just me and I dont know all the logistics assoiciated with that job. Good luck would like to see some pics of what you decide.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:39 AM
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Isn't that what grading/landscaping was invented for? Hiding the hardscapers's mess?!
True. I was just thinking of all the raised 4 inch slabs we have in my area
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:59 PM
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Not sure what you mean per say. "Raised" is a broad term. No one size fits all.

"Raised" as in how much? A few inches? Then backfill with soil and feather into the yard.

Raised as in 18" - then still scenerios can exist.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:04 PM
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I agree with FLC, I would rip up the slab and do proper base. At least here in Wisconsin I would think if any water gets trapped between the slab and the pavers they will be popping up every winter. Maybe not all of them but you get what I am saying. If I were desperate for work and a prospective client told me this is what they wanted, I would definitely make sure there was clear communication of NO WARRANTY.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:31 AM
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I don't know a picture of the edge of the slab would be helpful but what I do know is that if my name was on this job I would not be entirely comfortable with a glued edge, I see a trip and fall from a fliping loose paver on the horizon. The words glue and foot traffic dosent give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. Not a big deal to drill for tapcons or lag shields for a mechanical restraint.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:40 AM
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yet we step on "glued" retaining wall coping used as treads all the time........
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