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Old 05-22-2013, 03:39 PM
antv20 antv20 is offline
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I had narrowed my choices down to the Ferris Is700 and Gravely 152. One thing that made me decide the Gravely, was that the Ferris, with a 61 inch deck, I could not see the edge of the deck without leaning over. If you want the Ferris go with IS700 and get the Vanguard engine. Everyone has good things to say about the Vanguard.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:12 PM
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Brules, perhaps you are right about the fx vs. fs in my particular application. I just test-drove an IS2000 an hour ago and man is that thing smooth. If the 700 is nearly as smooth, then i might be sold on one with a 60" deck. The full independent suspension was smoother then the gravely with the air-ride seat, plus I could always install a suspension seat for $400 down the road to make it even smoother. The yard hasn't been regraded since the home was built 30 years ago, so a smooth ride is a definite plus. Thanks for that tip
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:17 PM
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If you go is700 with 61" deck, like antv20 said, get the big vanguard engine.

And I agree, the new Ferris models are pretty amazing for the price. Their lowest end machines and they don't play the "lets put a cheaper deck" on it game, plus the suspension and the ZT3400's is awesome.

I am looking at a is600z 48" as I have lots of areas I can't get a bigger deck around, and at it's price point, nothing else comes close.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:32 PM
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1.5 acres 30 to 45 minutes a cutt. 30 times a year equal 15 to 30 hours at most a year. My answer doesn't matter any machine will handle that work load.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:33 PM
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Do you know if the 1500 runs the same suspension as the 2000 or the 700? If the price point between a 700 and 1500 isn't too far off, I may consider the 1500 for the longer suspension travel. Like I said i gotta live with this machine for a long time to come
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:03 PM
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I think as the models go up, the suspension gets progressively more complex etc.

Lots of info here in this archived thread I found:

http://www.lawnsite.com/archive/index.php/t-401507.html
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:34 PM
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1.5 acres 30 to 45 minutes a cutt. 30 times a year equal 15 to 30 hours at most a year. My answer doesn't matter any machine will handle that work load.
30 times a year?

Mitch, have you considered looking at the Snapper Pro's?
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:40 PM
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I see that the 700 is basically the next gen 1500. The suspension on the 2000 looks so much beefier while weighing only 90lbs more then the 700, so I guess I gotta take a test drive to see how it rides in comparison. I have heard good things about vanguard, apparently the only B&S engine w/o any complaints I've seen. Is the 24 Kaw too anemic for the 61" deck? I'm also curious if a 23hp Kaw with a 52" deck would be more or less efficient then a 30 Hp vanguard big block with a 61" deck. Thanks for that link, that was very helpful
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:55 PM
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30 times a year?

Mitch, have you considered looking at the Snapper Pro's?
I heard that ferris, snapper, and simplicity were all B&S entities and basically a product would be introduced as a snapper or simplicity, and if it sold well became a ferris for the commercial market. The ferris evolution is an example of that. The snappers seem to lack the ferris' suspension system also the nearest dealer isn't that close to me.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:51 PM
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I see that the 700 is basically the next gen 1500. The suspension on the 2000 looks so much beefier while weighing only 90lbs more then the 700, so I guess I gotta take a test drive to see how it rides in comparison. I have heard good things about vanguard, apparently the only B&S engine w/o any complaints I've seen. Is the 24 Kaw too anemic for the 61" deck? I'm also curious if a 23hp Kaw with a 52" deck would be more or less efficient then a 30 Hp vanguard big block with a 61" deck. Thanks for that link, that was very helpful
From everyone I have talked to, they prefer the ZT3400 drives to the traditional pumps and motors of the 1500 and the old is500. Everyone says the pump and motor is much more likely to tear up your grass and that the 3400's are much much smoother.
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