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Old 07-30-2011, 06:19 PM
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I'm being sued for 7-K.

I contacted a lawyer and he also advised me to ignore the lawyers. Saying I wont save any money by making their job any easier. He did suggest I would probably need to hire a lawyer to get a favorable outcome.

Although the fact that I have the uniforms in my possession I can see posing a problem. Unfortunately once I turn them in I loose my evidence that they did not give me the long tailed shirts that I paid for or that I had shirts that were still not embroidered after 2 years.

On a good note I have many texts in my phone from my Cintas delivery guy communicating about the problems and him apologizing for the poor service.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:53 AM
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Take photos of everything and then turn the uniforms in!
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:39 AM
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What was the outcome

I know it's been a while, but what was the outcome of this? Did you have to hire a lawyer, I'm in a similar situation right now, apparently you get 3 comaplaints with them but I got fed up and told them to go to hell, now they are suing me for $4000, I never saw the 5 year contract on the text...

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Old 06-15-2013, 01:36 AM
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I know it's been a while, but what was the outcome of this? Did you have to hire a lawyer, I'm in a similar situation right now, apparently you get 3 comaplaints with them but I got fed up and told them to go to hell, now they are suing me for $4000, I never saw the 5 year contract on the text...

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And now they are going to start charging YOU to fix damaged uniforms which are mostly caused by their handling during the laundry process... I mean hey, if you can't get new customers to support your shareholders, might as well sue the heck out of the ones you HAD, right?
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:46 AM
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I know it's been a while, but what was the outcome of this? Did you have to hire a lawyer, I'm in a similar situation right now, apparently you get 3 comaplaints with them but I got fed up and told them to go to hell, now they are suing me for $4000, I never saw the 5 year contract on the text...

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I worked for the laundry business for 4 years as a service manager. I took customers to court, some I won...some I didn't. Here is the rundown for anyone looking at a uniform service.

Those contracts they make you sign----99% of the time they are for 5 years. Read the small print, some will say automatic renewal after the initial 5 years for ANOTHER 5 years. It's all about wording to them.

Damaged goods----They determine if it was damaged by you, or them. They will often try to pass it off saying you did it and charge you accordingly. Pay attention to your bill, look for charges like: Loss, damage, replacement. Make sure you know what is going out to be cleaned....they get sneaky sometimes saying your worker "never turned his in" and will bill you for a lost garment.

Now, onto the court topic. Letters by certified mail always helps you out. Send a few though, timing is the key. Build a case against them and you have a MUCH better shot at winning. Contact your service manager too, let him know how unhappy you are. Some contracts state the company has 90 days to fix any problems with service. Read your contract to find out and follow what it says to do. Most of the time, if an account was small, I would tell them we would sue. Would we really? Nope! Sometimes you can even offer to buy out your contract.

You know that awesome driver who knows how upset you are? Chances are he's making commision off how much he bills you. Some uniform companies pay drivers commision so they will charge as much as possible. But the #1 rule of uniform and textile companies....EVERYTHING is negotiable.

Garment Prep charge-Negotiate
Delivery Charge- Negotiate
Inventory percentage- Negotiate
Loss charges- Negotiate
Contract terms/conditions- Negotiate
Length of contract-Negotiate

These companies make a lot of money, but don't let them toss you around. Everything is negotiable.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:02 AM
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Contact your insurance company

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I must have hit the big time I'm being sued I have made a few comments over the years about my displeasure with my uniform service Cintas. I finally had it earlier in the spring and to the letter of my contract I sent a certified letter explaining my reasons I canceled the contract for breach of contract. I didn't hear from them which surprised me I didn't think they would give up easily. Come to find out they don't even have our mailing address. I got a call from their lawyer last week wanting an address to send the paperwork to. Unbelievable.

Anyone have experience with this kind of thing? I am tempted to go to court without a lawyer except for the old saying a man who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client. Anxious to hear what the brain-trust has to say.
Don't do a thing personally. Contact your insurance company and let them handle it. They will tell you what they need and what you should do. Being in this business since 1979, we have experienced a few lawsuits.

Good luck.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:32 AM
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Don't do a thing personally. Contact your insurance company and let them handle it. They will tell you what they need and what you should do. Being in this business since 1979, we have experienced a few lawsuits.

Good luck.
What does insurance have to do with a signed contract with a vendor?

I've never asked about coverage for a vendor suing me because the vendor screwed up.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:26 AM
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Once they get your information and send you the court papers.. I would have my lawyer contact them and try and settle out of court.

things to remember if you are planning to stay in business.

1. If you are not incorporated then they are suing YOU personally, if they win thats a judgement on your credit report they can come after your personal assets. (bank accounts, liens on property, garanishments)

OR

2. If you are incorporated then they will sue your company. If they win then the judgement will be attached to your company's incorporation (Tax ID number) This will affect you in gettting business credit and growing your company. Your personal assets are protected.

These people are no joke...this is what they like to do.... sue the little guy. I've been in court numerous times over stupid crap like this. I'm giving people jobs, trying to feed my family and they are suing over stufff like this.

Just settle if you can and think twice about any contract... uniforms, advertisments, leases or anything like that.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:15 PM
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They are suing the company

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What does insurance have to do with a signed contract with a vendor?

I've never asked about coverage for a vendor suing me because the vendor screwed up.
If they are suing your company/you your insurance company needs to know. Depending on the circumstances of the issue I would certainly at least touch base with them.

They may not need to be involved, but they would know if there are any other risk involved.

To each their own.
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