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Old 07-01-2013, 11:39 AM
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why cant you net over 100k solo? is my math wrong?

Ive saw a lot of threads about struggling to net over 100k as a solo operator. Heres my math. What am i doing wrong?...


This is not cutting yards but just spraying and fert....


Say you run a route of 6 weeks. You visit each yard 8 times per year. (i know up north you dont go 8 times) Thats 30 days mon-fri. 8 of those 30 days rain or wind. so you work 22 days on avg for the 6 week route. I can do 30 yards a day if my route it tight as i have a ride on. so 22 days X 30 a day = 660 yards in 6 weeks. On avg you make 30 bucks a yard after fert and pre cost. all diff size yards aywhere from 150.00 down to 40.00 my avg i figure 30.00 per yard.

660 yards X 30.00/yard = 19,800 X 8(times a yr) = 158,400 thats your gross right? Minus 48,000 in taxes your at 110,400.00 for your net. Yes this is with no truck payment and no business debt. insurance about 6k per year for all. your net after all expenses in 104,400.00.

Now, Is my math wrong or am i correct on this? If you throw in aerating in the summer (for bermuda) you can make another 5 or 6 thousand.

Where am i going wrong here?
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:51 PM
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Ive saw a lot of threads about struggling to net over 100k as a solo operator. Heres my math. What am i doing wrong?...


This is not cutting yards but just spraying and fert....


Say you run a route of 6 weeks. You visit each yard 8 times per year. (i know up north you dont go 8 times) Thats 30 days mon-fri. 8 of those 30 days rain or wind. so you work 22 days on avg for the 6 week route. I can do 30 yards a day if my route it tight as i have a ride on. so 22 days X 30 a day = 660 yards in 6 weeks. On avg you make 30 bucks a yard after fert and pre cost. all diff size yards aywhere from 150.00 down to 40.00 my avg i figure 30.00 per yard.

660 yards X 30.00/yard = 19,800 X 8(times a yr) = 158,400 thats your gross right? Minus 48,000 in taxes your at 110,400.00 for your net. Yes this is with no truck payment and no business debt. insurance about 6k per year for all. your net after all expenses in 104,400.00.

Now, Is my math wrong or am i correct on this? If you throw in aerating in the summer (for bermuda) you can make another 5 or 6 thousand.

Where am i going wrong here?
your math is probably right, but its just that math...do you already have 660 yards or is that number just for arguments sake. also gas, and truck maintenance help eat up profit, it is possible to do but things have to be priced just right. I would think it would take a lot of advertising to get to that many accounts.
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:05 PM
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No i do not have that many accounts. I just hear people say you cant do it and when i crunched numbers it seems you can. I understand truck maint and gas. Gas is figured in this but not maint. Either way it looks like you COULD. i was just seeing if my math was correct to the guys that have had a business for a while and i was missing cost
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:53 PM
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Your expenses are way low, even if you already had all your customers and did no advertising, bought no new machines/equipment or supplies, its still way too low. I do however believe you can make 100k, I'm solo and still fairly new at this, and don't so spraying/fert, but I make a decent buck and don't work to my full capacity as of yet. It's possible but 60k is a more realistic number.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:17 PM
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30 lawns a day is a lot for a solo to do everyday. I think your math is way off. How many lawns do you have now?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:25 PM
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Your expenses are way low, even if you already had all your customers and did no advertising, bought no new machines/equipment or supplies, its still way too low. I do however believe you can make 100k, I'm solo and still fairly new at this, and don't so spraying/fert, but I make a decent buck and don't work to my full capacity as of yet. It's possible but 60k is a more realistic number.
Why are my numbers low? 50.00 yard. 13.00 fert. 4.00 post. 3.00 gas= 30.00. Thats my avg yard.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:27 PM
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30 lawns a day is a lot for a solo to do everyday. I think your math is way off. How many lawns do you have now?
150. Yes i do 30 a day. my customers are happy. Im not full time. but the days that i have i can do 30/day
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:21 PM
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If you have that many accounts I would think you would need some help.

I can't do 8 apps here and I doubt I would ever have 600 account much less 300. I can do 20-25 per day with my ride on but that's a tight route and at the end of the day I really need a day off!!
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:37 PM
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If you have that many accounts I would think you would need some help.

I can't do 8 apps here and I doubt I would ever have 600 account much less 300. I can do 20-25 per day with my ride on but that's a tight route and at the end of the day I really need a day off!!
The facts i stated above are FACTS. I dont need anyone telling me how many i can do in a day i have that figured in. I can do 30 a day. What i was looking for is if anyone saw any finance things i was missing. Everyone keeps telling me i can do this i cant do that. I already stated what i could do! thanks everyone anyway.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:02 PM
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The facts i stated above are FACTS. I dont need anyone telling me how many i can do in a day i have that figured in. I can do 30 a day. What i was looking for is if anyone saw any finance things i was missing. Everyone keeps telling me i can do this i cant do that. I already stated what i could do! thanks everyone anyway.
dont base your projections on an absolute number of stops per day. Base it upon square feet per day, week, round, etc. You are going to find that as soon as you use an average size lawn for a budget, your average is going to change. Instead, base it on 150, 200, 300k per day and you cant go wrong.
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