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Old 08-21-2013, 10:44 PM
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:06 AM
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I prefer the smaller fronts - much easier on the turf during three point turns
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:41 AM
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Wow , I got so busy I've not had time to do a complete review. I wanted to post more pics and have not had time to get enough yet. But if you are contemplating a new mower I would look hard at the Pioneer S. This is a great addition to my small Exmark family. How many times when mowing along curbing have you had to move over so as not to run your rear tires over the curbing. That is not a problem with the 60 inch deck on this machine, the trimside is easily double what a normal 60 " deck is on most brands.

The ZT 3400 are very smooth and extremely quick, and responsive but absolutly No jerkiness. Up hill downhill straight and smooth. Much better than my ZT 5400 were on my Outlaw.

I will be adding a rubber flap soon to help the stripe a little bit but it does well without it.

I did not get the suspension seat kit which I would highly recommend, the standard seat leans back to far just not as comfortable as I like. I put on a 13 yr old suspension seat for now.

Every newby and oldtimer should consider the Pioneer S if you like Exmark and mulch this thing is a great tool. Having the Lazer Z and the Pioneer S on the trailer really works well together. At $7600 with the mulch kit was a good deal for me, with tax $8100

Hills this mower is very stable, excellent traction up and down.

Also I love the deck pulley covers they remove in seconds, same going back on.

Biggest concerns: Skinny tires work great on smooth flat lawns, but fall into crevices, easily causing blade swirls on rough lawns. The wider tire is better imo.

Fuel usage: 7 gal lasts about 5 hrs but is easy to pour gas into and it does not leak.

Exmark Oil: Good stuff but very expensive. Hydro oil and motor oil. The only oil I will use in any of my exmarks from here on out.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:28 PM
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My Lazer Zs will not hold this hill at a angle, just straight up or down. No problem with the Pioneer.
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:13 PM
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Looks good man.....
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:28 PM
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The cut that thing leaves is immaculate. I can't tell what kind of grass that is on the hillside?
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:34 PM
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The cut that thing leaves is immaculate. I can't tell what kind of grass that is on the hillside?
I never had any issues with the QOC with an Exmark, always top notch... Then you'll have guys on here with zero seat time on them & all they talk about is clumping issues... Mine might through some when extremely wet but that's it...
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:37 PM
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The cut that thing leaves is immaculate. I can't tell what kind of grass that is on the hillside?
KBG mix . That was cut at 3 inches and only cutting about 1 to 1 1/2 inch off.
That deck mulches real well in those conditions. Now if it is an inch longer I would have to double cut it to make it look like that. I'm impressed with this mower so far.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:13 PM
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Pros

Extra trimside ability.

Light weight

Traction on hills

Quick and Smooth, but responsive transmission.

Easy access to deck belts with new covers that remove quickly and easily with no tools.

Exceptional Cut Quality with the Ultracut Series 4 deck

Roll Cage Folds up out of the way.

Also like the way they braced the deck from the front (see pic) this cleaned up the back of the deck no more sway bars that wear out and have to be greased.

Price about $5000 less than Lazer Z X series.



Cons

A Little Heavier Deck Lift (no springs to help)

Skinny Wheels out front.

Needs Suspension Seat




After 20 hrs of seat time thats it. I wish I had 2 of these machines.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:32 AM
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I never had any issues with the QOC with an Exmark, always top notch... Then you'll have guys on here with zero seat time on them & all they talk about is clumping issues... Mine might through some when extremely wet but that's it...
Exmark's clumping is a very common problem here. And yes I have owned them. We experience very wet conditions every morning. The dew is very thick because of cold nights and hot days. Doesnt dry off until around 11am. Grass grows 3-4" per week. But I will say this, in dry conditions taking a 1/3 off Exmark has arguably the best cut in the business. We just dont have those conditions here very often.
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