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Old 08-30-2013, 12:19 PM
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Never ever use starting fluid. I have been in business since 1985 and have never used starting fluid.


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Old 08-30-2013, 03:39 PM
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Explain to us how somebody who has never used starter fluid is an expert in its use. Most of the people advising against using it have never used it. I have used it many times on many engines with no problems. Modern starter fluid claims to have oil in it which could protect against the catastrophic damage predicted by those who say you shouldn't use it.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:42 PM
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Explain to us how somebody who has never used starter fluid is an expert in its use. Most of the people advising against using it have never used it.

Most have learned/seen the aftermath from others that HAVE used it...... I could go on but I won't.......
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:28 PM
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Most have learned/seen the aftermath from others that HAVE used it...... I could go on but I won't.......
The only people that like starter fluid.....aren't experts in anything....
Ignorance can take you a long way in this world....

I could go on.....but I will defer to the Grand Poobah....
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:32 PM
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Here is an automatic ether system in case you have a hard starting diesel engine http://www.koldban.com/Ether_Systems_Why_Ether_s/26.htm.

What do the etherphobes recommend instead? Gasoline mixed 50:1 with oil in a spray bottle?
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:36 PM
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If you are nervous about an after-market ether system, you can order your Detroit Diesel engine with an ether system already installed http://extranet.detroitdiesel.com/Pu...ecs/6SA492.pdf.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:36 PM
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Personally....if the only way you can start an engine is to use starting fluid.....just fix the engine correctly..
Naw....that makes too much sense....
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:52 PM
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Story time !!!

Years ago a man had his diesel K5 Blazer towed into the shop, The starter was dangling by the cable underneath...... The whole nose cone was shattered to pieces and one mount bolt was broke off in the block, After drilling out the busted bolt and installing a new starter I jumped in to start it up. In the passenger floor board was three cans of either...... You guessed it, It wouldn't start.

I called the man asking if he wanted me to check why it wouldn't start...... His reply; "shoot some either in it and it will fire right up", I got a couple guys and pushed it out my bay then told em to come get it.....

Two more tows and three more busted bolts along with two more new starters, He finally woke up and let me install a new glow plug controller......

I every time I see those "Gas Monkey" guys...... EVERYTHING they try to get run'n is with either instead of finding the root of the problem and fix'n it........
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:57 PM
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I would almost bet the valves are blown and there is no compression.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:09 PM
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<<I would almost bet the valves are blown and there is no compression.>>
How does it start and run
if it has no valves and no compression, even with ether? I think Piston Slapper has the correct general answer and Restrorob has the specific answer for the OP's problem. After it starts running routine maintenance, as recommended by others, wouldn't hurt.
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