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Old 09-12-2013, 02:37 PM
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Well I feel kind of dumb. I do this everyday and never knew the difference.
We've built and renovated many pools over the 5yrs I've been contracting with this company. And it's always been called grounding.. Even the city's and county's call it grounding..
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No don't feel dumb just now you know and keep this info in the back burnner when the need arrises you can give someone a education....
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:01 AM
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You probably would not understand my personal explanation, but this is a clear and concise explanation defining the difference between bonding and grounding and why it is dangerous to confuse them.

http://www.poolspanews.com/electrical/on-the-grid.aspx
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I would love to hear your personal explaination. Let's make this a learning moment. Btw i have been building pools (mainly gunite) since 1968.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:30 PM
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I would love to hear your personal explaination. Let's make this a learning moment. Btw i have been building pools (mainly gunite) since 1968.
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Really? More home work? Cool..... I could complicate a tuna sandwich, I probably would have to start by a thorough explanation of electrical bonding theory, To really understand that I would have to move on to electronic field structure and the properties of matter and how they relate to the structural properties of lattice constants and elastic constants. Maybe ending with phonons and their part in electrical and thermal conductivity. I still haven't started operation find the Node with Mr. Garrett yet...
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:14 PM
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Really? More home work? Cool..... I could complicate a tuna sandwich, I probably would have to start by a thorough explanation of electrical bonding theory, To really understand that I would have to move on to electronic field structure and the properties of matter and how they relate to the structural properties of lattice constants and elastic constants. Maybe ending with phonons and their part in electrical and thermal conductivity. I still haven't started operation find the Node with Mr. Garrett yet...
What'cha wasting time for? I have a pool to dive for an inspection today and would like to know i am safe getting in the water
As far as Garrett and the Node goes, your real world test is very important and i spoke of our discussion to a manufacturer and we are both anxious. Wish you the best of luck on the Node.


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Old 09-13-2013, 05:44 PM
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Well, while you were catching the tuna i took my life in my own hands and dove the pool.

I lived
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:52 PM
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Well, while you were catching the tuna i took my life in my own hands and dove the pool.

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Actually to determin a pools safety I would probably seek your assistance...
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:54 PM
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might be a stupid question but will there be re-bar in the concrete deck?
So you're asking about rebar (which is a reasonable question), and someone is spouting off about "grounding". I have NEVER seen rebar used in grounding. Drakeslayer - is that a Pennsylvania thing?

I'm around pools almost every day.

xtreem3d was initially referring to rebar that is used to reinforce the concrete. Because the topic was about cutting concrete. Maybe I'm wrong. Am I correct?? Rebar used as reinforcement acts as a skeleton for a concrete slab.

We just finished working with an old pool deck this week that had NO rebar and no Wire reinforcing the concrete.

However - most pool decks do have rebar and wire reinforcement.

And yes - the topic of "GROUNDING" is important. Because many contractors will rip out old concrete decking and install pavers.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:05 PM
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Well, while you were catching the tuna i took my life in my own hands and dove the pool.

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Hey what happend to cappy haven't seen him around hear... pm if its not good news...
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:06 PM
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And speaking of GROUNDING, I'm gonna say something else.

Instead of Paver Pete talking about door hangers for 45 minutes at the Techo-bloc Showcases, he should talk about grounding paver pool decks.


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Old 09-13-2013, 08:07 PM
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I wasn't sure if there would be wire or rebar in a pool deck...was mostly making the poster aware so he didn't ruin a diamond blade
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