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Old 09-19-2013, 09:56 PM
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No. The combo is 36,000 that's cdl
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No it's not. Don't be dumb. Read what's already been posted
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:57 PM
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True that. It gets really tricky when you get close to the limit. If you are towing with, say an F550 and have one of those trailers that's derated to 9999 GVWR to get around the CDL regs and you are 2 pounds overweight on the trailer, you are really screwed if you don't hold a CDL!
How so?????
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:07 PM
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No it's not. Don't be dumb. Read what's already been posted
I have. And I have been told by ISP that there looking at your door sticker and the trail vin plate if that equals 26001 you had better have a cdl. Plate weighting doesn't really make a big deal
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:55 PM
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I have.
You clearly have NOT.

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And I have been told by ISP that there looking at your door sticker and the trail vin plate if that equals 26001 you had better have a cdl. Plate weighting doesn't really make a big deal
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So if my F650 (26k GVWR) is towing my skidbob trailer (10K) what class of CDL do I need?

To help you out here are the CMV/CDL classes:

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(1) Combination vehicle (Group A)—Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds)
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(2) Heavy Straight Vehicle (Group B)—Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more), or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds) GVWR.

(3) Small Vehicle (Group C)—Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that meets neither the definition of Group A nor that of Group B as contained in this section, but that either is designed to transport 16 or more passengers including the driver, or is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the hazardous materials as defined in § 383.5.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...spx?reg=383.91
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:43 PM
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Class a for any combo over 26001 no matter what state.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:50 PM
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I'm curios how many guys responding have ever had a dot audit, CSA check or been inspected at a weigh station? Fmcsa says duffster and others who agree are correct, for the guys disagreeing how many of you hold CDL's?
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:05 PM
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Class a for any combo over 26001 no matter what state.
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(1) Combination vehicle (Group A)—Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds)
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:29 PM
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Just get a class A and be done with it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:29 PM
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well I will say that all the numbers don't lie. through some research you are correct Duffster
so I will say that in your examples your right
now with that being said,,,,you never stated what the vin/door plates read.

I'm curios how many guys responding have ever had a dot audit, CSA check or been inspected at a weigh station? Fmcsa says duffster and others who agree are correct, for the guys disagreeing how many of you hold CDL's?
my company went through a paper dot audit 2 years ago....they never even looked at one truck. all they were concerned with was paperwork. so to answer that,,,,i have been through a dot audit
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:31 PM
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one point I found

One of the most misunderstood parts of the above requirements has to do with trailers with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 pounds when the combined GVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds. In this case a CDL is NOT required provided you are not placarded for hazardous materials. However individual states may impose a requirement that drivers in their states must have a CDL in this situation so you need to check the requirements in your state. It is also important to note that individual state CDL licensing requirements CAN NOT be applied to drivers from other states.
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