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Old 10-22-2013, 07:09 AM
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not in my area. middle unit townhouses are right in that range. wider open easier access jobs / higher Sqft are in the 15-17 range.

Market drives the prices
Sir - you are dead wrong in this post and your previous post.

MARKET DOES NOT NECESSARILY DRIVE PRICE. A contractor's competency and great reputation accompanied by a well executed and thorough sales presentation will override the "market". Effective Selling is a refined skill.

Assuming you're not a Craigslist Special - there is no such thing as "1/2 a day" job. In the 17 yrs I have been a hardscape contractor we have NEVER done a job from start to finish in half a day. (half a day is 5 hrs or less, what exactly is half a day?). Loading the truck with materials. driving to the job. unloading. doing the work. cleaning up. driving back. etc.

It is impossible for you to get all the tools and equipment to the job, the pavers, the sands, yes plural, the aggregate, haul away spoils, haul away the tools and equipment, left over pavers, unload the left overs and scraps, etc in one day. multiple trucks to one small job as I often see?? Not good business instinct, only the state highway crews can send out multiple trucks to clean up one dead deer.

There is no way you will successfully argue this on this forum, the veterans will not agree
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:18 AM
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$1900 for a 100 SF. Seems fair. Should take a half day. $38000 for a driveway is a bit high.

Can you educate us all and describe exactly how this is completed in one 1/2 day.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:20 PM
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MARKET DOES NOT NECESSARILY DRIVE PRICE. A contractor's competency and great reputation accompanied by a well executed and thorough sales presentation will override the "market". Effective Selling is a refined skill.
Yes and no. In the DC market I'm generally seeing irregular flagstone on a new concrete slab north of $30/sq ft. When I sold in Phoenix, everyone on my sales team lost their minds when the boss upped the price from $11/sq ft to $13. I'd love to see the value proposition that'll sell patios in AZ at DC prices.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:16 PM
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DVS..... I did get to see your post before it was scrubbed ...
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:59 PM
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$1900 for a 100 SF. Seems fair. Should take a day and a half. $38000 for a driveway is a bit high.
Reason for edit: typo
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:33 PM
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To the op, I think you will learn quickly about how to price work, this is your first and you can make good money, but pricing by unit will get you in trouble one day. Learn your costs to run the business and to make a profit, then go from there.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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Sir - you are dead wrong in this post and your previous post.

MARKET DOES NOT NECESSARILY DRIVE PRICE. A contractor's competency and great reputation accompanied by a well executed and thorough sales presentation will override the "market". Effective Selling is a refined skill.

Assuming you're not a Craigslist Special - there is no such thing as "1/2 a day" job. In the 17 yrs I have been a hardscape contractor we have NEVER done a job from start to finish in half a day. (half a day is 5 hrs or less, what exactly is half a day?). Loading the truck with materials. driving to the job. unloading. doing the work. cleaning up. driving back. etc.

It is impossible for you to get all the tools and equipment to the job, the pavers, the sands, yes plural, the aggregate, haul away spoils, haul away the tools and equipment, left over pavers, unload the left overs and scraps, etc in one day. multiple trucks to one small job as I often see?? Not good business instinct, only the state highway crews can send out multiple trucks to clean up one dead deer.

There is no way you will successfully argue this on this forum, the veterans will not agree
Dead on, agree 100%
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:01 PM
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One of the first things I would like to comment on is that your profile doesn't say where you are from. Not that one can't lie, I realize that. I'm a veteran contractor. Do I want to sit here and type for 40 minutes only to help my competition that is 4 miles down the road??

When asking for help - please be willing to share who you are, where you're from etc.

Never unit price a job as Dependable posted. never.

You can click on my user name which will take you into my profile.

And from there you can do a search. I have written extensively on how to price work, why, why not, and yadda yadda yadda. Do a search via my user name and you'll find everything and anything you need to know. And it's accurate information derived from experience and wisdom, not theory.

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Absolutely nothing wrong with pricing by sq ft. In my opinion .
Glad to hear your views. But not in a condecending manner.
Good luck to all.
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