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Old 01-19-2014, 08:20 AM
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There you go. Some smart mofos on ths site who understand how to use tools effectively. Like you, i am waiting to see if something else comes out but will likely grab the exmark.
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:17 PM
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I demo'd the Toro and loved it. Been holding off buying two because I've been hoping Honda would bring one out. If no Honda by March I'll be buying the Toro Turfmaster. And then of course Honda will bring out a 30" in April.....

I'm not looking to replace any mowers with them but use them to complement the other stuff on the trailers. Like I have a crew that only does high-end properties, they'll be getting one of these 30's. that goes with their rider, Honda HRC and one or two walk-behinds, depending on what day they're cutting. Just another option for them on properties where everything has to be perfect Another crew that only does rentals and rough commercial won't be getting one. I have a "short" crew that only cuts small properties, like zero lots, they'll be getting a 30" to go with their HRC and 37" Toro.

Just another tool, not appropriate for all properties, but will make money when used correctly. Just wish Honda would make one......
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Most new equipment is announced in the fall. Not spring. If they waited till spring to announce no one would know about them and they wouldn't sell many. Everyone knew about the commercial 30s 5 months in advance.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:10 PM
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Everyone knew about the commercial 30s 5 months in advance.
Five months they could've used to get 'em straightened out before release.
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:20 PM
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The decks on the turfmaster and exmark are similar, but not the same. The changes are at the front wheels. You have different ways to change the ht's, which changes the decks. I felt the exmark mower pulled the grass and material under the deck better. I felt the toro blew some material out. I also felt the toro dropped more clumps of grass then the exmark. Just my opinion when I tried all three on a demo.
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:46 PM
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Honda has done nothing to improve their 520 single stage thrower all these years. Granted it is quieter and easier to start than a similar Toro single stage blower but the chute handle is cumbersome and the machine tracks very poorly when compared to the Toros.

So...in keeping with that I don't expect Honda will ever bother.
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:39 PM
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Honda has done nothing to improve their 520 single stage thrower all these years. Granted it is quieter and easier to start than a similar Toro single stage blower but the chute handle is cumbersome and the machine tracks very poorly when compared to the Toros.

So...in keeping with that I don't expect Honda will ever bother.
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I sent you a pm about the Kai engines on your bops Exact Rototilling. Let me know if u didn't get it. Sorry to subvert the thread.
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:09 PM
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I sent you a pm about the Kai engines on your bops Exact Rototilling. Let me know if u didn't get it. Sorry to subvert the thread.
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I got it and thought I sent you a reply. Been sick with flu and am not all with it.
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:17 PM
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I got it and thought I sent you a reply. Been sick with flu and am not all with it.
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Ok sorry I don't see it anywhere. No biggie
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:21 PM
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IFF this is worthwhile KAI info/intel...then please share or PM. I'm a BOP guy w/ 2 Samurais.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:20 PM
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I sent you a pm about the Kai engines on your bops Exact Rototilling. Let me know if u didn't get it. Sorry to subvert the thread.
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IFF this is worthwhile KAI info/intel...then please share or PM. I'm a BOP guy w/ 2 Samurais.
The Original question was how many hours is too many hours on an engine similar to the ones on the BOP mowers Kawi V-twins.

My answer was....depends on how well it was maintained. 500 hours could be too many. Then again 1500 could be fine when properly maintained. Use of synthetic oil with high ZDDP levels and/or true SL/SJ rating.

The quick answer is have a reputable shop who know these engines do a compression leak down test.

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And to keep this posting on track for the thread I really do love that fold up and down handle on the Time Master 30. I use the dwarf mode [lowest position] to get under trees branches constantly.

So what is holding Toro back from just putting the Kawi on the TimeMaster already....?
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