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Old 02-09-2014, 07:03 PM
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I like buying from the dealers on small jobs and residential jobs better. The dealer and the factory sell me product at trade pricing so it costs the same at the dealer as it does at the factory but the dealer will deliver it for free. If we are doing commercial jobs the factory will sell it to me at dealer price.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:04 PM
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I like buying from the dealers on small jobs and residential jobs better. The dealer and the factory sell me product at trade pricing so it costs the same at the dealer as it does at the factory but the dealer will deliver it for free. If we are doing commercial jobs the factory will sell it to me at dealer price.
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ohio sure is weird!
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:34 PM
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ohio sure is weird!
The manufacturers dont want landscapers coming to there yards to pick up 1-10 pallets at a time and i dont want to sit and wait behind semis for hours so its easier faster and cheaper to buy from a dealer. Unilock sets up trade pricing every year and it is the same price at the dealer or at unilock and my dealer offers free shipping so it works out great, i place an order and it shows up on site for the same price i can pick it up for at unilock. But if we sell a big commercial job unilock will cut out the dealer and sell to us at dealer price. Sounds more complicated than it is but it saves us time and money. And its not just how they do it in ohio, my local unilock factory supplies multiple states.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:52 PM
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The manufacturers dont want landscapers coming to there yards to pick up 1-10 pallets at a time and i dont want to sit and wait behind semis for hours so its easier faster and cheaper to buy from a dealer. Unilock sets up trade pricing every year and it is the same price at the dealer or at unilock and my dealer offers free shipping so it works out great, i place an order and it shows up on site for the same price i can pick it up for at unilock. But if we sell a big commercial job unilock will cut out the dealer and sell to us at dealer price. Sounds more complicated than it is but it saves us time and money. And its not just how they do it in ohio, my local unilock factory supplies multiple states.
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hence the smiley face in my post....I'm just messin with you!
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-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
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-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:39 AM
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How long would it take The One They Call Devious to do this wall?
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:11 AM
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Thats a grand in my pocket, do i contact allan block directly or still go through the dealer?
Allan block does not manufacture their products. They license their manufacturing.
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:53 PM
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looking at a 140' by 4.5' high wall (1 course buried), no turns or curves, Allen Block AB hollow core filled with drain rock, no caps, engineered with 3 layers of grid, and a hard pipe drain system exiting the face of the wall every 10', 1' clean stone backfill, no filter fabric (all this is the engineers, not mine). nothing there now, it will be the side of a new parking lot (lot is set back 5' from top of the wall) so excavated dirt can just be dumped to the side and dealt with later, great access from the street for machines and trucks.

I know all my material costs, looking for some production rates or a ball park of how long it would take your similar small crew(3/4 guys, skid and excavator on site) to accomplish this so I can get a real price together. number of days, number of hours, feet per hour, however you want to slice it would be great. its triple my biggest wall(length wise) so i want to make sure i'm scaling it up accurately. If i can get a few responses I'll post up my assumed breakdown, just dont want to influence anyones thoughts yet

thanks guys, have a good weekend
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Was it spec'd to have 14 drains poping through the front of wall ?
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:58 PM
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Was it spec'd to have 14 drains poping through the front of wall ?
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Yea its crazy, all hard pipe.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:32 PM
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How long would it take The One They Call Devious to do this wall?
couldn't tell you.

all the specs are lumped into one paragragh. I have a short attention span and I bore quickly and don't have the patience to wade through all that sentence by sentence. Bulleted sentences work better for me.

Kinda getting busy here too, don't really have time to do a mock estimate.

sorry 'ol buddy!!





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-1 CAT hat
-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:56 PM
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Allan block does not manufacture their products. They license their manufacturing.
LOL I was gonna type the same thing!

Folks - in terms of SWR block, the manufacturers buy the license to produce the block. And ontop of that the manufacturers pay a royality, which is usually per block for each block manufactured.

We have a manufacturer here that makes Keystone, Mesa, Cornerstone and one or two other brands. And each brand has it'splace in the market, they all have different benefits, so fitting a block to the job at hand with as much ease as possible is never an issue.
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My Equipment Brag List:

-1 CAT hat
-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
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