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Old 05-08-2014, 09:29 AM
WenzelOSLLC WenzelOSLLC is offline
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So, TruGreen...

.... may or may not have sprayed Pre-em on the lawn I just overseeded.

Came home last night and there's an app sign in the neighbors yard where I just overseeded some sod that didn't take where a pool used to be. I'm hoping for my neighbor's sake that they didn't spray it but who knows.

Looks like I may be doing some sod work later.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:07 AM
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Do you apply topdress when you overseed?
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:24 AM
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If you were not sure, the underlayment for the seed should have been activated charcoal. Pendimethalin or Prodiamine work the same on all grass seed be it fescue or crabgrass. Charcoal will neutralize herbicides in the soil.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:18 AM
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What about a humate application? Would that be the same?
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:33 AM
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In most states the exact chemical used has to be listed on the invoice, and the amount. Check that. Simplest thing to do ( if it is extremely thin) is resod. Quicker than reseeding, and looks better.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:06 PM
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I run into situations like this a lot. The customer doesnít tell me that he wants to put seed down, then he gets upset when the PRE that I used kept the seed from coming up. For the last 10 years or so, Iíve been reminding each and every customer before the first treatment of the year to tell me if they intend on seeding in the spring.

If they tell me they want to plant seed in the spring, we simply skip the PRE and everybodyís happy. But, there are the times when customers donít tell me they want to seed before the first app foes down. Most of the time, they donít think about seeding until this time of year, after the first PRE has gone down. But, we make very clear to each customer that seeding after the PRE wonít work.

So, was it TGís fault? That depends Ė did you tell them you were going to be seeding? If not, then this oneís on you. If you told them not to apply any PREs because you were going to be seeding, then itís their fault.

How do you fix it? You can try the charcoal, but itís really messy. Or, you can wait until the fall and be sure you tell them what youíre wanting to do. Like I tell my customers, if you donít tell me what you want, I wonít know.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:26 PM
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Not really blaming TG. I asked about it when I was talking to the neighbor before doing the seeding and she didn't even mention it.

I aerated it and raked the cores apart instead of bringing in fresh material to topdress. It wasn't the most ideal way to get it done but she was looking for the least expensive way to get it done. She didn't want to do sod again unless the seed didn't work.

I'll have to try the charcoal and see if that does the trick.

I'm going to have to think about it a little more to see if I should be fixing it out of pocket or whatever.
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:02 AM
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I run into situations like this a lot. The customer doesnít tell me that he wants to put seed down, then he gets upset when the PRE that I used kept the seed from coming up. For the last 10 years or so, Iíve been reminding each and every customer before the first treatment of the year to tell me if they intend on seeding in the spring.

If they tell me they want to plant seed in the spring, we simply skip the PRE and everybodyís happy. But, there are the times when customers donít tell me they want to seed before the first app foes down. Most of the time, they donít think about seeding until this time of year, after the first PRE has gone down. But, we make very clear to each customer that seeding after the PRE wonít work.

So, was it TGís fault? That depends Ė did you tell them you were going to be seeding? If not, then this oneís on you. If you told them not to apply any PREs because you were going to be seeding, then itís their fault.

How do you fix it? You can try the charcoal, but itís really messy. Or, you can wait until the fall and be sure you tell them what youíre wanting to do. Like I tell my customers, if you donít tell me what you want, I wonít know.
Hit nail on head with this post. I also have issues with people asking me about seeding their lawn AFTER I have spread pre down. They have said nothing of the sorts prior to my application. Then to see the look in their eyes when I tell them they have to wait until late summer at the earliest to try and seed.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:52 AM
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Hit nail on head with this post. I also have issues with people asking me about seeding their lawn AFTER I have spread pre down. They have said nothing of the sorts prior to my application. Then to see the look in their eyes when I tell them they have to wait until late summer at the earliest to try and seed.
You got that right DA. Many uniformed (moron) customers never tell you they "threw some seed on top of the ground" .. like that's gunna work anyway.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:07 PM
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Seed should not be sold to homeowners until August 1st.
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