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Old 07-10-2014, 10:51 PM
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And is this a lawn mowing business?
No, hardscape installation and enhancements.
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:06 AM
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90% landscape maintenance and more so mowing
300 accts. just heard they offered one of my guys $24 to start
I'm sorry but around here. No. Not without doing hard scapes etc. thoughts?
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:46 AM
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90% landscape maintenance and more so mowing
300 accts. just heard they offered one of my guys $24 to start
I'm sorry but around here. No. Not without doing hard scapes etc. thoughts?
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$24 is way too high unless he's going to be a field manager, and even then it seems excessive for starting.

That would be more than fair even for high end construction of hardscapes.

Experienced hardscape foreman, sure.
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:14 AM
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So you offer absolutely no benefits other than their paycheck?

And you wonder why they are looking elsewhere?
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:05 AM
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they are gone just replaced them ad on craigslist netted 20 resumes in 2 days … move on… lives too short bye bye
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:50 AM
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Out of those 20, you should be able to actually get 5 show up and end up with hopefully 1 decent one.

You need to address the root problem.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:22 PM
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We are based about an hour north of you and a little larger. We don't do maintenance at this time though. We offer full benefits. 50% Company match 401k, blue cross blue shield for health. A single guy pays about $40 a week, family plan is around $100 week. We give vacation/personal time based on amount of time with the company. All benefits begin at 90 days for full time non-seasonal guys. A big thing we do is give extra vacation time for when the guys take vacation during non peak periods. So if a guy takes a week vacation in late November, we'll pay him the 40 hours but only deduct 24hours from his bank of hours. But if they need to take a day in mid may, we deduct the full amount of time they missed.
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:52 PM
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no offense guys, but the economy took a digger.

Everyone and anyone poured into jobs that used to be hard to fill.

A Landscape supervisor in 2000, starting out (on average) used to get paid 40k, company cell, company truck, insurance 80/20 match and 401k, sick leave, paid holidays, the works.

Now in 2014, the average is 40k... no bennies.

Do some people offer more, sure. but that's the average.

So the supervisor manager level has actually gotten less compensation now, than 14 years ago.
Largely, the money just isn't there to supply this anymore, and the costs of everything have gone up dramatically.

The guy should be thankful for the job, and a company truck.

I say let me go get the city job.

I hope he lives close to work or he'll see quite a bit less income on a monthly basis. Insurance, fuel, oil changes, tires.

He's not calculating that in.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:49 PM
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no offense guys, but the economy took a digger.

Everyone and anyone poured into jobs that used to be hard to fill.

A Landscape supervisor in 2000, starting out (on average) used to get paid 40k, company cell, company truck, insurance 80/20 match and 401k, sick leave, paid holidays, the works.

Now in 2014, the average is 40k... no bennies.

Do some people offer more, sure. but that's the average.

So the supervisor manager level has actually gotten less compensation now, than 14 years ago.
Largely, the money just isn't there to supply this anymore, and the costs of everything have gone up dramatically.

The guy should be thankful for the job, and a company truck.

I say let me go get the city job.

I hope he lives close to work or he'll see quite a bit less income on a monthly basis. Insurance, fuel, oil changes, tires.

He's not calculating that in.
Some of us have thrived due to the economy the last 5-10yrs. Some of us have taken advantage and grown exponentially because of this. We have built respectable businesses that offer exceptional service. The best way to attract the employees who can best provide our clientele with this level of service is with good pay and benefits. That is what keeps them from leaving to go work for a competitor closer to their home, he keeps them from leaving to work in our distributors' dry AC/heated facility, it keeps them from starting their own company.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:36 PM
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We did not offer any benefits for a long time. We are adding a new benefit each year as we grow and can afford it. We started out with a couple of paid holidays per year and now we are up to 6 paid holidays with a 6 month qualifier. The next year we added 1 week paid vac for employees with 1 year qualifier. This year we added a Aflac supplemental policy for those that wanted it. If you want to add benefits make sure you have it in your budget so you can price it in your jobs. Good luck!
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