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Old 08-29-2014, 01:05 PM
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You've prolly never heard of it because I'm the guy that thunk up drilling out a solenoid and attaching an air fitting for inducing air to find leaks.
Here is a not fun conversation.

Rain Bird gets product ideas on a very regular basis. We used to just review them and respond to the person who submitted them. Then, we found that people who had submitted an idea that was rejected later saw something introduced by Rain Bird that they felt was their idea or inspired by their idea. If this ever was the case, Rain Bird was already working on the product that was then released to the market. Rain Bird does not disclose what new products it is working on for a variety of reasons. So, the 'inventor' was not told this at the time. Hard feelings are very easy to generate in a loose process like we had. You may have seen stories in the news along these lines.

We have now moved many years ago to a rigorous and onerous process to accept product ideas. Most people choose to not participate once they see it. It is an unfortunate situation, but one that is unavoidable in our litigous society.

Please contact me directly if you think you have a product idea that you would like to submit. [ rwolfarth@rainbird.com ] Do not tell me what it is. I will send to you the package that will explain the process. Only after you have filled out the forms and signed the agreement can anyone at Rain Bird evaluate your idea.
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Old 08-29-2014, 03:34 PM
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Just the same, if Rainbird introduces a side-spashing impact head that throws water to the left, as I mentioned somewhere else, I expect my fair share of royalties.

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Old 08-29-2014, 03:48 PM
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Just the same, if Rainbird introduces a side-spashing impact head that throws water to the left, as I mentioned somewhere else, I expect my fair share of royalties.

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I will get right on that.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:33 PM
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How about a drawing or schmetic of a decoder for educational purposes?
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The unseen parts that are hidden in the potting would help us more easily understand the decoder.
This here is from 1975.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:45 PM
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This here is from 1975.
Whoa!!!!!! 1975. Cutting edge technology 40 years later.
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Whoa!!!!!! 1975. Cutting edge technology 40 years later.
Doesn't mean that this patent is necessarily valid or even a current design.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:27 PM
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Patent protection lasts only so long. Current state of the art has to be more sophisticated than clipping the AC.

Don't forget the little X10 home automation system was sending control signals over power lines in homes 30 years ago.
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Old 08-30-2014, 02:06 AM
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Patent protection lasts only so long. Current state of the art has to be more sophisticated than clipping the AC.

Don't forget the little X10 home automation system was sending control signals over power lines in homes 30 years ago.
EXACTLY! I'm sure that I'm safe in saying that Rain Bird's two wire protocol has matured well past something that they patented in the 70's
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:15 PM
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Then, we found that people who had submitted an idea that was rejected later saw something introduced by Rain Bird that they felt was their idea or inspired by their idea. If this ever was the case, Rain Bird was already working on the product that was then released to the market. Rain Bird does not disclose what new products it is working on for a variety of reasons. So, the 'inventor' was not told this at the time.

We have now moved many years ago to a rigorous and onerous process to accept product ideas. Most people choose to not participate once they see it. It is an unfortunate situation, but one that is unavoidable in our litigous society.

Please contact me directly if you think you have a product idea that you would like to submit. [ rwolfarth@rainbird.com ] Do not tell me what it is. I will send to you the package that will explain the process. Only after you have filled out the forms and signed the agreement can anyone at Rain Bird evaluate your idea.
Anyone other than me see through this?

In my case, I asked a simple question........
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:58 AM
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Anyone other than me see through this?

In my case, I asked a simple question........
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Okay. I'll bite. What question?
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