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Old 06-24-2000, 01:11 PM
Toroguy Toroguy is offline
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Im sure we all reconsidered our methods of securing our equipment after hearing of mountain mans unfortunate burglary.<p>Garage or pole building security-<p>Dead bolt locks, with core changer ability if you have employees entrusted with keys. <br>If an employee is terminated you can quickly change the lock &quot;core&quot; whick makes old keys obsolete, along with any unauthorized copies that may be circulating. This is much cheaper than all new locks.<br>Keyed on both sides deadbolts will prevent exit if accessed via window and prevents window from being broken and door opened by reaching through opening.<p>Garage door openers can be recoded and easily opened by tech happy thieves. Latch them at night while equipment is sleeping.<p>If a single overhead door is the only means of entry, park a vehicle up next to door. This is a secondary precaution against your trailer being hooked up. They will have to move the vehicle(s) to remove anything larger than hand tools.<p>Motion activated lighting, inexpensive and effective. Have it activate a radio inside to make noise as well. <p>Use &quot;kryptonite&quot; bicycle locks to secure equipment to trailers.<p>Lock trailer hitches closed when stored. <p>Dont let the thieves hide behind clutter, keep grounds neat and easily observable.<p>Use your parents, friends or relatives address when buying new equipment. A new piece of equipment, with the address of the owner is tempting to a crooked clerk at dealership. A local car stereo installation company had dirty guys installing stereos, then un-installing them later that week...from the customers info!<p>Try and gain access to your own equipment, see where you need fortification.<p>One last thing. &quot;If you've got it flaunt it&quot; is foolish. &quot;If you want it, dont flaunt it!&quot; is better suited to the bottom line.
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Old 06-25-2000, 09:16 PM
mountain man mountain man is offline
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Probably half of the readers on this board are not familiar with the most important thing when it comes to security and equiment - INLAND MARINE INSURANCE!! Inland marine covers replacement costs of equipment that is stolen. Fortunately, I was hit for only about $10,000 in equipment and I had plenty of coverage (had to jump through 100 different hoops to get it but the coverage was there). After inventorying all of the equipment, I found I was way underinsured had they gotten everything. It is amazing how much stuff you pick up in a short amount of time. I now am going to do insurance / inventory checkups every 6 months.<p>Toro guy is right that beyond INLAND MARINE INSURANCE, you need a security plan. I started mine today with the purchase of an 18 month old German Shepard. Not only will he have a much better life in his new home, but hopefully my equipment will continue to have a good life in my hands and not some thieves possession. The dog is staying at the house for awhile to get used to us as new owners before he moves into the shop. The next robber will have to have some bigtime gonads to go eye to eye with a 90 pound German Shepard.<p>I have begun to store equipment totally different than before. Each of my garage bays are 45 feet long and have garage doors on both sides. We now back the trailers up to each other so you cannot open the gates without moving a trailer. I agree with Toroguy that it is a good idea to park a car outside to keep someone from hooking up a trailer and driving off. Fortunately, we still have garage space for the trucks so I will park them in the less secure (no dog) but still locked garage area. These are big assumptions, but after last week I'm going overboard. A. Assume that they back a truck into the garage door and rip it off the hinges (per the police this is common with professional thieves)and B assume they are cruel enough to do something to the dog. What can you do to secure two open trailers backed up gate to gate to keep someone from hooking up and driving off. Is it worth doing something else besides locks and a dog or do we just rely on my first comment and let INLAND MARINE INSURANCE kick in? Putting locks on everything is getting real old quick. Everytime I turn around in the garage I have to open another lock.<p>Another thought along the security lines. DO YOU HAVE A BACK UP PLAN? If something happens to your equipment (theft, wreck, etc.) how will you get your work done. Fortunately, we had enough backup equipment that we still were able to get our yards done. It takes time to get the insurance check. Had they gotten all my mowers and equipment, I would have had to hit the reserve account and buy additional equipment that day. Two weeks waiting on a check with no equipment and no income would be tough. Sorry for the long post unfortunately this topic hits home and it's hard not to be longwinded.
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Old 06-25-2000, 11:13 PM
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A perimeter alarm system would allow your dog to move inside and keep man doors and overhead doors covered, It can be local system with loud horn or monitored by central station like ADT.<p>Treat your systems and plans as proprietary data, dont share the details.<p>Like Guido and Phagan swear by regimented maintenance programs, employ the same discipline with your security practices.<p>
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Old 06-26-2000, 07:24 AM
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I have 2 Dobermans + 1 shotgun. The dogs are<br>freindly at the front door,but if you go into<br>the yard unescorted,they'll tear you a new <br>arse.I also recently had an L1A1 SLR,which<br>was a handy piece of gear.<p>Karl<br>
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Old 06-26-2000, 11:52 AM
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What can you do to secure two open trailers backed up gate to gate to keep someone from hooking up and driving off?<p>A Friend of mine shows beautiful antique engines. He has them mounted on very nice custom made trailers and sometimes leaves them at the show over night. When he dose this he pulls the pin and removes the Tongue and hitch! That's right, his hitch is mounted using a square tube inside a tube with a pin to hold it Just like the receiver on the truck. He just takes the hitch with him.<p>This is not practical for lawn equipment but he also jacks the trailers off there wheels to stabilize the engine and takes the jack with him.<p>BTW The trailer I designed needs air to lift it to the tow position and the air compressor is mounted in the truck. At night it would be dragging on the ground. See http<p>
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Old 06-26-2000, 11:55 AM
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Old 06-26-2000, 04:05 PM
thelawnguy thelawnguy is offline
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If I need to park the trailer, I have a long length of cable which loops thru the pin hole for the rampgate and thru a slot in the wheel rim and around the spring then back and a padlock secures the rest. Wont stop someone with bolt or cable cutters but will amke the &quot;opportunity&quot; thief think twice.<p>Bill
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Old 06-26-2000, 10:26 PM
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The thing that is tough is there are so many different trailer manufacturers, sizes, ramps, etc. So each persons situation is different.<p>As was posted above, try to remove the easy opportunity. The more difficult the caper is the more likely the criminal will pass or be detected.
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