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Old 07-16-2015, 08:03 PM
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If you think there is not benefit to running without a guard, I'm assuming you have never tried it or that you don't spend much time with a trimmer in your hand.

I have four 280T's and none of them have a guard, and you can run about 1ft of line on each side on a weekly lawn.

We even use them to trim shrubs and if you didn't know it was done with a string trimmer, you would never know.
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I trimmed my 280t's guards to allow the string to be longer than intended by Ehco and to the average person they appear to be in place. They cut better/faster than with the full guarding in place. Like you I run it out so I'm taking a 20"+ cut on grass and even for heavy vegetation longer line works better.
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:13 AM
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I don’t know how it would be any faster with the guard off. I can get within a few inches of trees, fence, etc... with a walk behind so what does it matter if I have 17 inch swath or 22+? I’m not mowing a foot from everything.
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:44 AM
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I donít know how it would be any faster with the guard off. I can get within a few inches of trees, fence, etc... with a walk behind so what does it matter if I have 17 inch swath or 22+? Iím not mowing a foot from everything.
Running a ZT on the property's I cut you can't get as close as you could with a WB. Also several of them have area's such as ditches you either have to use a 21" mower or string trimmer to cut.
Using your numbers (17" to 22") there's a 30% increase in cut size which does increase productivity.
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Old 07-17-2015, 05:27 PM
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I donít know how it would be any faster with the guard off. I can get within a few inches of trees, fence, etc... with a walk behind so what does it matter if I have 17 inch swath or 22+? Iím not mowing a foot from everything.
I did two small back yards today with my weedeater alone....no guard. Both yards were about 100 square feet or maybe a little bigger. I can get my string out to almost 12" on each side plus the 4" head that is just about 28" swath. I always do these two back yards with my trimmer and it looks like it was mowed really short with a reel mower. I couldn't do that with the guard. I don't usually run it out that far but it is nice to when I need it. I can also stick my 4" head in between small opening and trim out spaces that I couldn't with my guard on. I haven't used a guard in so long I can't even remember the last time I did.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:36 PM
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I donít know how it would be any faster with the guard off. I can get within a few inches of trees, fence, etc... with a walk behind so what does it matter if I have 17 inch swath or 22+? Iím not mowing a foot from everything.
Some people like it with the guard and some people like it without the guard. I "accidentally" tried it without the guard back in 1997 and never put the guard back on. At the time I still didn't have full on commercial equipment. I was using Homelite straight shaft trimmers and the guard fell off of one of them one day. I tried to put it back on but it was junk so I tried to trim without the guard. I found that I liked the weight reduction and maneuverability much better. I haven't used a guard since then.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:08 AM
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I guess we all have different needs, I have some diverse properties and I’ve still never had a need for more width. You don’t know till you try. I’ll give it a go and maybe I’ve been missing out for years, any time and efficiency I can gain is worth trying.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:42 AM
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I have been using the trimmer without the guard for 35 years and the only thing i needed to do is use shin protectors from flying stones or wear long pants.
By fitting a speedfeed head i never had any problems with too much line coming out.
The best thing is less weight at the front end
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Trimmers are cheap enough that the time saved without the guards pays for itself many many many times over. I have burnt out a clutch before but it doesn't stop me from taking it off.

5 minutes saved at each property is unreal when you look at the day or week or even season.
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Exactly. I've put clutches in myself too. Not that big of a deal. Time is money.
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Old 07-22-2015, 05:25 PM
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Im going to have to try my little tanaka without the guard. with the guard on I still get covered in grass and pelted with debris lol. I have about 15k square feet to mow and a whole lot of trimming every other week. I generally spend an hour or so with the trimmer and 3 hours+ with my little kubota w5021 walk behind mowing my place. That hour with the trimmer is brutal. ive got about 20+ small citrus trees to trim around and about 600 feet of fenceline to trim.
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