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Old 07-02-2012, 07:35 AM
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As for you guys saying that it hasn't been installed correctly, that's BS.

The guidelines for installing these systems is to barely put them in the ground or at the minimum to lay them in the turf and use sod staples to hold it in place and let the grass grow over them.

Too deep and they don't work correctly.

So, I say that it's the HO's responsibility to inform any contractor of the wire and pay to have it fixed on their dime. Even if the line is marked by the installer, the flags might be 12" or better away from the line.

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Old 07-03-2012, 10:16 PM
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I hit dog fences all the time also. It's agravating to me but I allways carry wire in the truck to fix them when it happen's. It's pretty hard not to hit them when you can't see them when your edging. I think the company wanting $200 to fix the wire is redicolus personally.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:39 AM
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You guys better read up a little on fixing these electric fences the right way. First and foremost you do not use stranded wire it creates disturbance in the fence and a weak signal can occur possibly resulting in the pet getting through the fence. Secondly using just wire nuts will cause corrosion again creating a weak signal. Waterproof or water tight splices are a must. Also a break finder can be purchased for a few bucks which will help in finding further breaks. Wire can be had at Lowes or Home Depot and water tight connector can be bought their too.
Fixing these fences improperly and the HO having a pet go through these fences because of your improper fixing of the fence is opening you up for a legal mater of negligence. Anyone can install them even HO's you just need to install them properly and in this case repair them properly to keep you out of the court room where that 200.00 backcharge will seem to be peanuts.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:33 AM
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fix the fence

If the fence is profesionally installed, the installer usually will fix a break. My contracts with invisible fence all say install four inches deep. On the first installation, I had ten breaks after I areated my lawn because some areas were two inches deep. After a slight come to jesus speach they fixed it. The next time I told them when they installed the fence, four inches mean four inches and if it breaks with edging or areating, they were fixing, never had a problem. Most issues are with the do it your self kits installed by the hos that get lazy.
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I fixed it. The dumb a$$'s ran the wire in the edge of the walk way. I repaired it for now, the home owner was going to call them and try to get them to come do it right. She told me she paid by credit card and may call the card company and have them do a dispute due to improper installation.
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They used your edging line to install the wire next to the side walk?


If I was the home owner, I would be mad too.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:47 AM
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You guys better read up a little on fixing these electric fences the right way. First and foremost you do not use stranded wire it creates disturbance in the fence and a weak signal can occur possibly resulting in the pet getting through the fence. Secondly using just wire nuts will cause corrosion again creating a weak signal. Waterproof or water tight splices are a must. Also a break finder can be purchased for a few bucks which will help in finding further breaks. Wire can be had at Lowes or Home Depot and water tight connector can be bought their too.
Fixing these fences improperly and the HO having a pet go through these fences because of your improper fixing of the fence is opening you up for a legal mater of negligence. Anyone can install them even HO's you just need to install them properly and in this case repair them properly to keep you out of the court room where that 200.00 backcharge will seem to be peanuts.
Even those Wire nuts with grease in them are not really a direct burial splice. They are for use in moist loctions in boxes.

Need a true direct burial splice.

Otherwise I agree..
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We install unground fences all the time. You do need to use direct burial splices any where you are going to splice, and 4" deep is ideal to help prevent damage. They are a great service to offer customers, and a great way to make extra cash. Central Indiana is in a serious drought right now, so we aren't mowing much and installing these fences is an easy way to make some extra money. We use a Brown Products bed edger set it at a 4" cut a 1 1/2 wide trench put the wire in sweep or rake the dirt back in, to easy. if we cross a side walk I use a concrete saw and cut in the stress crack line then use concrete crack repair to fill it. If the fences are done right then it souldn't ever need fixed. We just installed one last week it was 1240' of wire and took just over 4 hours with myself and one other guy. $2,400 the costomer didn't like the price at first but when they saw the quality of work we put into it they didn't mind the price. Plus we already service their property.

If we damage one I don't blame the HO it's bad customer relations when for a couple dollars it can be fixed. If it's an easy fix we would have even ran the wire properly. I wouldn't bad mouth the installer and upset the customer. Instead I would just suggest to them that it's in a poor location and are willing to move it for whatever you think a fair price would be.
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We install unground fences all the time. You do need to use direct burial splices any where you are going to splice, and 4" deep is ideal to help prevent damage. They are a great service to offer customers, and a great way to make extra cash. Central Indiana is in a serious drought right now, so we aren't mowing much and installing these fences is an easy way to make some extra money. We use a Brown Products bed edger set it at a 4" cut a 1 1/2 wide trench put the wire in sweep or rake the dirt back in, to easy. if we cross a side walk I use a concrete saw and cut in the stress crack line then use concrete crack repair to fill it. If the fences are done right then it souldn't ever need fixed. We just installed one last week it was 1240' of wire and took just over 4 hours with myself and one other guy. $2,400 the costomer didn't like the price at first but when they saw the quality of work we put into it they didn't mind the price. Plus we already service their property.

If we damage one I don't blame the HO it's bad customer relations when for a couple dollars it can be fixed. If it's an easy fix we would have even ran the wire properly. I wouldn't bad mouth the installer and upset the customer. Instead I would just suggest to them that it's in a poor location and are willing to move it for whatever you think a fair price would be.
I am wanting to start offering this service. What kind/brand of fence do you use. Where do you get your supplies? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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