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Old 04-28-2015, 05:38 PM
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I typically use Bermad valves for N/O applications but did recently use an Irritrol valve. The Irritrol valve performed better than I expected, although it took almost a month to get it.

Actually I did replace a BPE with the Irritrol valve. Why in the world anyone would install a N/C master valve on a system with very long mainline runs, and quick couplers used for spot watering is beyond me.
**Warning: This is a very obvious point for nearly everyone on this forum.**

I agree with Sprinkus. However, it only makes sense to use a normally open master valve if you have flow sensing along with the master valve and a means of turning off the master valve in a high flow condition. Why have the master valve in the first place if it is always on with no means of turning it off.

You have to also realize that you wouldn't connect a normally open valve to the master valve circuit of most controllers because most will energize the master valve circuit when any station of the controller is on and close the master valve.

Boy, I am really feeling dumb saying that and do it only for those who may not really understand the function of master valves, normally open versus normally closed, etc. Sprinkus obviously felt this went without saying. Sorry for taking this down to the very basic level. I know almost all of you don't need this. But I have seen almost everything after so many years in the industry and most of the problems come from a lack of understanding of the basics.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:47 PM
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**Warning: This is a very obvious point for nearly everyone on this forum.**

I agree with Sprinkus. However, it only makes sense to use a normally open master valve if you have flow sensing along with the master valve and a means of turning off the master valve in a high flow condition. Why have the master valve in the first place if it is always on with no means of turning it off.

You have to also realize that you wouldn't connect a normally open valve to the master valve circuit of most controllers because most will energize the master valve circuit when any station of the controller is on and close the master valve.

Boy, I am really feeling dumb saying that and do it only for those who may not really understand the function of master valves, normally open versus normally closed, etc. Sprinkus obviously felt this went without saying. Sorry for taking this down to the very basic level. I know almost all of you don't need this. But I have seen almost everything after so many years in the industry and most of the problems come from a lack of understanding of the basics.
Hey Ron.
I hope all is well..

There is no way I'm reading all the way into this^ just to say hi...
I would really like to say rainbirid has been putting out great stuff lately..

I really enjoy your input.

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Old 04-28-2015, 11:38 PM
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Hey Ron.
I hope all is well..

There is no way I'm reading all the way into this^ just to say hi...
I would really like to say rainbirid has been putting out great stuff lately..

I really enjoy your input.

xoxo the little guy
Thanks for the kind words. All that above was not likely meant for you anyway, so no harm in not plowing through it all. I would like to know if I am too windy for this group.
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Old 05-02-2015, 09:18 AM
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Sprinkus obviously felt this went without saying. Sorry for taking this down to the very basic level. I know almost all of you don't need this. But I have seen almost everything after so many years in the industry and most of the problems come from a lack of understanding of the basics.
Thanks for going into more detail Ron.
Sometimes I'll throw stuff out there when I'm tired and end up forgetting that not everyone has dealt with the larger systems that have flow sensors and N/O valves.
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I enjoy reading your post. Especially when i learn something new, which is most of the time.
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