4th of july

[yardguy28]

Originally Posted by Duekster

I feel for the single mom holding down the fort at home while the husband in on their 3rd tour of duty.

On one hand I see your point but please do not dismiss the freedom and liberty we have that was paid for by the blood of many patriots that never ask for a dime from you.

well in my point I'm not trying to dismiss what they do and have done. that part of my point.

yes I feel those in the service and there family's and appreciate what they do for our country.

but I don't agree that it should be every non military family's moral obligation to give money to the military charities as this family in the article I read suggests.

I think helping the military with money or time should be a personal decision each and every person has the freedom to make. not a moral obligation.

you choose to be in the military. if you or your family can't handle that on your own don't join the military. don't get into te military counting on others for help.

I know I don't count on anyone but myself.

[Duekster]

Originally Posted by yardguy28

well in my point I'm not trying to dismiss what they do and have done. that part of my point.

yes I feel those in the service and there family's and appreciate what they do for our country.

but I don't agree that it should be every non military family's moral obligation to give money to the military charities as this family in the article I read suggests.

I think helping the military with money or time should be a personal decision each and every person has the freedom to make. not a moral obligation.

you choose to be in the military. if you or your family can't handle that on your own don't join the military. don't get into te military counting on others for help.

I know I don't count on anyone but myself.

If no one would chose to enlist then what? Your so called self reliance depends on a system that allows you to be free and able.

Again, we have a lot of liberty paid for in blood. Not every war is noble, not every politician held the moral high ground but the blood and sacrifice of the solider is above that as many of them gave the ultimate commitment for our freedom.

I will say again, there should be no need for Charity because our soldiers should not want or need it. That is our obligation as a free republic and organized government.

[jrs.landscaping]

Originally Posted by cgaengineer

You're welcome !

What ever you were paid for your service was likely not enough...I am grateful for your service and I gladly pay taxes for military...in fact I have to keep telling myself that despite the amount of taxes we do pay, we have the greatest and the most powerful military in the world. I also have to tell myself that most of my taxes go to military or else I will go crazy thinking about paying for illegal people children welfare for crackheads and school for people either too dumb to learn or they don't care.

Oh...I am also thankful that I can get in my car and drive on smooth paved roads and not have to tell anyone where I am going and when I will return.

For the later I thank our military.
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People often forget how it is elsewhere in the world, we have too many people taking advantage of liberties they neither worked for nor deserve. I have a friend who served in Iraq. He collapsed a lung and had to be airlifted to Germany. While there, a Humvee from his squad hit an IED killing three guys inside he thinks about that, that he could have been there in that Humvee. These guys DO choose to do this, they fight so we can have the right and privilage to complain about things without being persecuted. Thanks to all the guys on here who have served. Without you guys people wouldn't have the freedoms they have even though they sometimes take them for granted......

[Patriot Services]

3 kinds of Americans. The ones who have served and understand what that commitment means. The ones that possess the unique human quality of empathy. The last group think that the way of life they take for granted just fell out of a Pilgrims backside.
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[coolluv]

Maybe its because I was brought up in a time when a mans handshake meant something. When you got a job based on a handshake. When morals and values meant something. When TV shows like The Rifleman and Little House on the Prairie etc. taught morals and family values and respect for the elderly and the military.

Sure they volunteer to join the service and thank God for us they do. (can I still say Thank God?) I don't know how many times I would force myself to watch the dedications at the end of the news broadcast showing the new round of dead young men and their young faces thinking to myself how they will never know the joys of life that I was fortunate enough to enjoy.

I sit and watch those dedications while tears roll down my face and my heart would ache for their families. All of the lives effected by that one persons passing. Or the ones that come home with legs blown off and arms blown off. It makes me sick. I have seen soldiers at gas stations and walked up to them and shook their hands and they look surprised and say thank you.

I for one respect and admire their courage and commitment to protecting our freedoms and way of life. The problem with our society today is they are taught to be selfish with no morals or respect. Reality TV shows teaching people that its OK to cheat on your wife, treat people with no respect, lying is accepted and on and on. You can't have the ten commandments in the courthouse, lets take In God We Trust off the money. No pledge of allegiance in schools. Just amazes me.

Think about that young man that will never get to experience the joys of growing up, buying a house, watching his children get older etc. That's what I think about when I see those young faces.

Todays society makes me sick and some of the comments from snot nosed kids on this forum just prove my point. I won't say what I would love to say on here because it would be promptly deleted. I feel sorry for the way this country is headed and the attitudes of society today. Its a me me me society. I believe I grew up in American history's greatest time and as I get older I feel sorry for those that are just getting started in this time and age. This country is where it is at right now because of the lack of morals and respect for others.

Get all you can no matter what cost. Me Me Me. Screw everyone else.

Makes me sick.


Dave...

[Charles]

Seeing how the 4th has passed and the thread is getting way off track and personal. Time to move on.