Register free!
Search
 
     

The Green Industry's Resource Center


Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 09-06-2013, 08:45 AM
DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: dennis ma.
Posts: 1,344
This is a struggle I face eAch and every day and season. This year I gave my lead guy a weeks paid vacation. I have been looking for perks for my guys beside the norm.
Good luck to all.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-06-2013, 06:56 PM
seabee24 seabee24 is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 619
I have heard of similar stats to what the OP stated in other places as well. But you have to take things in proportion.

A> - if you pay a guy enough that he can comfortably pay all his bills, own a decent house, and have some money to take his family on vacation - then the answer is this employee needs to be motivated with feeling appreciated, and an effort to make him "fall in love" with his job. If you paid me $58 per hour, and treated me like crap, and worked like a dog. I would leave you for a job that paid $48.00 per hour to enjoy my day. I could more than pay for my families needs on $48.00 the extra $70 per day, I could care less.

B> if your not paying enough to support the family and live comfortably, the apart about feeling appreciated will apply less and less. If you gave me ajob and treated me great at $13.00 per hour, I would leave you in a heart beat for a job that paid $18.00 an hour. Id rather be stressed and work, then stressed at home about money.

Even though B is only a $5.00 difference and A is a $10.00 difference you can see why the two situations are not the same.

Would you work for what you pay most of your guys? I wont. What category are your guys in - A or B? or are they paid even less than B.

Don't worry, Its not your fault. Its our industry as a whole.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-06-2013, 10:27 PM
Chuck Norris Chuck Norris is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by seabee24 View Post
I have heard of similar stats to what the OP stated in other places as well. But you have to take things in proportion.

A> - if you pay a guy enough that he can comfortably pay all his bills, own a decent house, and have some money to take his family on vacation - then the answer is this employee needs to be motivated with feeling appreciated, and an effort to make him "fall in love" with his job. If you paid me $58 per hour, and treated me like crap, and worked like a dog. I would leave you for a job that paid $48.00 per hour to enjoy my day. I could more than pay for my families needs on $48.00 the extra $70 per day, I could care less.

B> if your not paying enough to support the family and live comfortably, the apart about feeling appreciated will apply less and less. If you gave me ajob and treated me great at $13.00 per hour, I would leave you in a heart beat for a job that paid $18.00 an hour. Id rather be stressed and work, then stressed at home about money.

Even though B is only a $5.00 difference and A is a $10.00 difference you can see why the two situations are not the same.

Would you work for what you pay most of your guys? I wont. What category are your guys in - A or B? or are they paid even less than B.

Don't worry, Its not your fault. Its our industry as a whole.

Is A or B before or after taxes????
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-07-2013, 05:02 AM
123hotdog's Avatar
123hotdog 123hotdog is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bristol TN
Posts: 440
This is simple

I am small. One employee. I make a great living as an owner operator. Having just one employee allows me to give big Christmas bonuses as an incentive to get people to stay all year. Its also about knowing what your employee needs. My employee is constantly buying phone cards. So this year I am buying him one years worth of phone service from straight talk for $547. Obviously this is self serving for me as well. Last year my employee which had been with me three years was having allot of car trouble. I gave him a little ford ranger I didn't use.
__________________
Licensed and Insured
Operating since 2007
1993 Isuzu NPR dove tail open bed 4cyl diesel
1978 F-350 Dump Truck
1988 Z-71 Chevy 4x4 Meyers Plow
2005 Chevy HD 2500 6.0
2013 61" Bad Boy Outlaw XP 36 Vanguard
2013 54" Bad Boy Outlaw Stander Kawasaki
2014 48" Wright Walk Behind
1995 36" Scag Walk Behind
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-07-2013, 10:53 AM
Chuck Norris Chuck Norris is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123hotdog View Post
I am small. One employee. I make a great living as an owner operator. Having just one employee allows me to give big Christmas bonuses as an incentive to get people to stay all year. Its also about knowing what your employee needs. My employee is constantly buying phone cards. So this year I am buying him one years worth of phone service from straight talk for $547. Obviously this is self serving for me as well. Last year my employee which had been with me three years was having allot of car trouble. I gave him a little ford ranger I didn't use.

Best part about it is say it with me ... . . TAX WRITE OFF !#!#
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-07-2013, 03:31 PM
seabee24 seabee24 is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 619
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris View Post
Is A or B before or after taxes????
Would it matter either way? The common practice is we say a guy makes $12 per hour, and that's before taxes. So assume that it's before
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-07-2013, 03:49 PM
Ormond32176 Ormond32176 is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Daytona, FL
Posts: 200
Unskilled labor (edging, weedeating, bagging groceries, or anything else someone in school is qualified for) will pay $7.79-$8.50. If you offer a job a $10/hr, it's like they found the holy grail. They know they won't ever find another job with better pay at that age, and will treat it like that, or at least I would and have (18 years old). That extra $7-$8 a day is almost nothing to the employer, but huge for the employee. Honestly though, a pleasant work environment is a huge plus too. A lot of people I have worked with take each day as a physical challenge (running a weedeater for 10 hours a day is) so they want to work hard anyway, but the extra few dollars on top seals the deal.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:04 AM.

Page generated in 0.06405 seconds with 9 queries