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Old 01-07-2014, 06:59 AM
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Our pavements have 5-inch aggregate bases for pedestrian use.

Our pavements have 12-inch aggregate bases for vehicular use.


Where are you located?
I think we may be a little more north than you. For the vehicular installations I used to do where I worked before now we went a minimum of 18" for driveways and up to 24" for commercial/municipal applications.
But those jobs involved engineers and architects and certain specs we had to follow.


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Old 01-07-2014, 10:04 AM
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But frozen ground is frozen ground, in terms of interlocking pavements. So, if the ground is frozen 10-inches deep - a four inch aggregate base is no different than an 8-inch aggregate base In MY opinion, based on observations I have made, Crusher run and soil do not react any differently when they freeze.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:19 AM
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Dvs- thanks for your input, sorry if my response came off as looking for a short cut as that couldn't be farther from the truth. I was looking for some thoughts and a discussion from other qualified pros regarding the new product.

I've had a few jobs over the past few years that access was extremely tight (condo applications where we had to go across the common grounds to work behind the desired unit). My thinking was this product "could" be ideal for this type of application. What we have encountered in the condo situation is a tough repair of the common areas (no one to water the replanted grass)

If the ground freezes at 10" and you have compacted stone base of 4", 6", or 8" how does that differ from using the Gator base? Point being - the freeze is deeper than your compacted base in any one of those scenarios
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:28 AM
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Someone should ask about this at the Techo showcase.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:32 PM
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Someone should ask about this at the Techo showcase.
LOL - I love me a good circus, I can hear the clown music now
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:37 PM
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Dvs-.........

If the ground freezes at 10" and you have compacted stone base of 4", 6", or 8" how does that differ from using the Gator base? Point being - the freeze is deeper than your compacted base in any one of those scenarios
My comment about depths and freezing was because another poster made mention of this


BTW - do you really "replant grass"??
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:47 PM
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I always thought the idea is to get everything to move uniformly. No?
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:50 PM
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Someone should ask about this at the Techo showcase.
The guy in the video is the rep at all the shows that Gator is a sponsor (Techo, Unilock, etc) up here in New England. I'll ask him on March 5th and report back. Hang tight!
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:36 PM
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I always thought the idea is to get everything to move uniformly. No?
You wanna know the best way to get an education on frozen material?

Stock piles of CR8 and stock piles of soil.

We do a job, get started, have materials onsite, then bad weather hits. We come back a few days later and everything is frozen and or thawing. This is where Scientist Andrew Hardscape does his observations. A frozen pile of crusher run ain't no different than a frozen pile of soil.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:09 PM
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Legit question: Is our best subgrade permafrost? Should we all move shop to Alaska?
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