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Old 01-21-2014, 02:13 PM
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You still see the "Chem" name around??

Not here for many years. I was told thats because they don't want people thinking "Chemicals" on their lawn.
Are customer's that dumb? I guess so.


As for TruGreen prepay etc....... I just spoke with a customer that I've had for several years doing the snow and sprinklers for them.
They've been wanting to go with me for fert too.

I guess TruGreen signed their 2014 contract with the corp office with out telling the local manager way back in Oct or Nov 2013.
The local guy aint happy but he has little control unless we get our prices in early.

I know I can match and provide a superior service.
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:22 PM
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Post TG's past, present and future??

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Also recall that Servicemaster is keeping the CHEMlawn part, so these will be separate companies, which was always totally messed up for TruGreen, because they were forced to use ChemLawn for all apps...which was tactically a mistake for commercial maintenance contracts. Area Supervisors and Account Managers had no control over chem apps, which caused poor performance on commercial maintenance, Chemlawn has and always will (like weed man) be a residential service business model.
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You still see the "Chem" name around??

Not here for many years. I was told that's because they don't want people thinking "Chemicals" on their lawn.
OMG!You are so far off the reservation with this remark about ChemLawn's "status" that it is hard to believe that you are at all in tune with the industry!

ChemLawn ceased to exist as a stand-alone company way back in 1992 when they were bought-out by ServiceMaster, which already owned TruGreen. As part of the Acquisition Agreement the ChemLawn name was to be kept for 15 years, (due to their national Brand recognition). Hence the company name TruGreen-ChemLawn from 1993-2007. Even then, it was TRUGREEN-chemlawn* strictly in name only. The "ChemLawn Services Corporation" went defunct when EcoLab sold them in 1992, and they were absorbed into TruGreen in 1993. As for TruGreen LandCare, they are a completely different company owned by Aurora Co.

Turf Magazine just put out a great article that outlines TruGreen (and the former ChemLawn) history, and where they go from here.

This article is titled:
"WHAT NOW TRUGREEN?"
"Industry leader faces tough uphill climb in a mature market"
View this article at...
www.turfmagazine.com/article-10230.aspx
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:41 PM
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I had heard that TruGreen had actually started doing this (subcontracting for mowing and maintenance companies) last year.
Is subcontracting for mowing and mintenance companies something new? I've done this for years. I bet others on this board have done the same thing. I would be willing to bet that TG, Scotts, Weedman, and the other big boys do it, too.

I don't see any reason to be surprised at this, do you?

Maybe when Shorelandscaper got his letter from TG it was the first one he'd ever gotten from them. But, I thought it was a common tactic. I used it heavily in my career, especially when I moved to a new area. When I moved from FL to NC, one of the first things I did was find a landscaper to tag-team with.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:43 PM
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Before everyone gets their panties in a twist about "hurray TruGreen is going down" That vacuum won't help you guys any. Execs will sell anything decent out to Brickman and Valley crest before it all sinks, just making those guys bigger.
They wont simply crumble and you guys will all suddenly get more business and a larger worker pool.
I havent seen a large landscape company that doesn't have shockingly large debt.

IF servicemaster splits off TruGreen, What will likely happen is TruGreen will do a Chptr 11 reorganization, and actually do much better without guys who make decisions about termites and toilets calling the shots.

Also recall that Servicemaster is keeping the CHEMlawn part, so these will be separate companie, which was always totally messed up for TruGreen, because they were forced to use ChemLawn for all apps...which was tactically a mistake for commercial maintenance contracts. Area Supervisiors and Account Managers had no control over chem apps, which caused poor performance on commercial maintenance, Chemlawn has and always will (like weed man) be a residential service business model.
So TruGreen LandCare...which is a separate beast from Chemlawn, might do a Chptr 11 and come out swinging more aggressively than before, with a free reign and an actual skilled landscape business manager running the show, without his hands tied.
So this news is a wait and see, don't plan you celebrations yet.
umm, service master sold TrueGreen LandCare over 2 years ago to Aurora...they only have the turf care division now. If they are truely done with it all together, I would imagine it will be gobbled up or restructured without the public noticing a difference. They will and always have done crap work. Everyone knows that. True story though about them spraying for Brickman...at least in this area they are.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:53 PM
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Post TruGreen & TruGreen LandCare difference

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umm, service master sold TruGreen LandCare over 2 years ago to Aurora...they only have the turf care division now. If they are truly done with it all together, I would imagine it will be gobbled up or restructured without the public noticing a difference. They will and always have done crap work. Everyone knows that. True story though about them spraying for Brickman...at least in this area they are.
TruGreen LandCare was always a separate company from TruGreen LawnCare. Trugreen LandCare started out as as landscape construction & maintenance consortium called "LandCare USA". ServiceMaster bought them out in the late 90's and renamed them TruGreen LandCare. Essentially becoming a separate "mowing division" of TruGreen. In 2011, ServiceMaster sold off TruGreen LandCare to Aurora Investment Group. The only thing that connects the original TruGreen with TruGreen LandCare now is their name, which can be quite confusing for people!

Details of all of this can be found on...
http://www.lawnandlandscape.com/lawn...care-sold.aspx
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:36 PM
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Turf Magazine just put out a great article that outlines TruGreen (and the former ChemLawn) history, and where they go from here.

This article is titled:
"WHAT NOW TRUGREEN?"
"Industry leader faces tough uphill climb in a mature market"
View this article at...
www.turfmagazine.com/article-10230.aspx
An interview with TruGreen's President, David Alexander

"TruGreen ready for life on its own"

http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...n-its-own.html
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