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Old 08-21-2012, 12:30 AM
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I hired a plumber at the beggining of the year to run a crew and he lasted 3 weeks. He did not have a clue about hydraulics and could not wrap his head around proper zoning. We have a few large plumbing companies in town that do track home builder installs, and they are comical to say the least.

I have become much more involved in the various associations trying to push to get the regulations changed in Texas. As of right now plumbers are exempt from the Irrigation License. At minimum they should have to sit for the Irrigators exam but be exempt from taking the class, because if they are the God of everything water as they think it should not be a problem.

The most lucrative jobs we bid are fixing plumber installed systems, so that is the bright side.

I also think there should be a journeymen period before they turn guys loose on installs. I know that when I got my license I thought I knew everything, I quickly realized that I did not have a clue.
To be called a 'journeyman plumber'.. I kinda feel you should be able to properly design a city....Skyscrapers..Housing..Irrigation.. Wells . Fire systems.... Not just log 4000 hours .. Take a test, be able to solder 1/2 copper piping everywhere through the house and know some codes

I don't understand why plumbers have such a hard time with this.

I had to somewhat argue with a plumbing company the other day. Basically I serviced a sprinkler system and told the HO that they had a leak inside the house and recommended a plumber ( This guy is like 85+ with parkensins) The plumber came out and told the guy it's his sprinkler system and charged him like $165... I come back out and verify it's in the hot water system inside the house.. So I called up the plumbing company and told them this on behalf of the old guy... The plumbing guy didn't believe me and said " What would you know your're just working the sprinklers" ( Being in front of the HO) I said " Well I obviously know more then you and I'm probably half your age.. You need to come back here and fix your mistake" I found out what's leaking, you obviously didn't do your job.

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Old 08-21-2012, 08:18 AM
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To be called a 'journeyman plumber'.. I kinda feel you should be able to properly design a city....Skyscrapers..Housing..Irrigation.. Wells . Fire systems.... Not just log 4000 hours .. Take a test, be able to solder 1/2 copper piping everywhere through the house and know some codes

I don't understand why plumbers have such a hard time with this.

I had to somewhat argue with a plumbing company the other day. Basically I serviced a sprinkler system and told the HO that they had a leak inside the house and recommended a plumber ( This guy is like 85+ with parkensins) The plumber came out and told the guy it's his sprinkler system and charged him like $165... I come back out and verify it's in the hot water system inside the house.. So I called up the plumbing company and told them this on behalf of the old guy... The plumbing guy didn't believe me and said " What would you know your're just working the sprinklers" ( Being in front of the HO) I said " Well I obviously know more then you and I'm probably half your age.. You need to come back here and fix your mistake" I found out what's leaking, you obviously didn't do your job.
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