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Old 04-07-2005, 09:22 PM
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Is ecs on exmark worth an extra $200

I can get a toro 32" wb with t-bar for $2299, or I can get an exmark 32" wb with ecs controls for $2499. Is the emark worth it? Will I get more control with ecs (sharper turns, more manuverability etc.)
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:37 PM
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I think it's worth it. Test drive both and see which one you like better. I like the ecs better than the t-bar, I don't like to have to make the mower go by pressing constantly on a bar. I like to just be able to let it go and guide it.
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:40 PM
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I can get a toro 32" wb with t-bar for $2299, or I can get an exmark 32" wb with ecs controls for $2499. Is the emark worth it? Will I get more control with ecs (sharper turns, more manuverability etc.)
It's worth it to me! Never been a fan of tbars, but to be honest, I've never given them much of a chance. ecs or tbar isn't going to improve manuverability or sharper turns. There's only so hard you can apply brakes and let the other wheel turn, the controls aren't going to make a difference. If you want manuverability you need to get a hydro. Once you buy one, you won't buy another belt drive.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:44 PM
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I can get a toro 32" wb with t-bar for $2299, or I can get an exmark 32" wb with ecs controls for $2499. Is the emark worth it? Will I get more control with ecs (sharper turns, more manuverability etc.)


As was stated, the ecs controls won't change maneuverability, they are just more comfortable and ergonomically correct than the old grip style.

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Old 04-07-2005, 10:46 PM
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Ecs

I sure believe it;s worht the xtra $
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:01 PM
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Tbar is the only way to go on a belt machine. Try it and youll agree.
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Old 04-08-2005, 01:22 AM
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The deck is the more important issue here, because whichever controls you personally prefer, the mower is still a belt drive with it's inherent deficits.

What are the decks? You're not gonna find a lot of supporters here for a "Recycler" or "SFS" deck. Some of the Toros used the 'eXmark style' deck though, and then you're back to controls!
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Old 04-08-2005, 01:29 AM
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I thought the Exmarks were a little over priced until I bought one. The ECS controls are great and the quality of cut is exellent. Well worth the extra money.
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Old 04-08-2005, 02:16 AM
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Just curious MACLAWNCO, You do outrank me in seniority on this forum so I mean no disrespect but could you explain why you think the T bar is better. I have the ECS on both my Metros and I have about 5 years experience with walkbehinds alone, I have used every type of control on a walkbehind and have found no better setup than the ECS; not including hydros. This is all personal prefence of course so I wont try to sell you my personal opinion but just wanted to know.
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:10 AM
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I'm 50/50. I think they're ok. Worth $200 extra?... depends if you want to spend it. It's about preference. I started using the ECS controls last year going from pistol grips. What i like is your arms are closer together. It's easier to lift the front end up with pistol grips. You gotta try both and see what you like.
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