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Old 04-08-2005, 11:15 PM
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Another Overdig

One of our first jobs of the season and we hit the weakest soil I've ever worked in. We are installing three steps and a patio. We began the excavation on Wednesday. Wednesday morning my foreman calls and says, "We have a problem." The soil was extremely weak at the normal excavation. I tell him to go to 4', there is enough money in the job. He hits 4' and calls me. "Mike, we're at 4' and no change." I go out to the job and jump into the hole. My feet sunk about three inches. I grabbed a shovel and dug in. I dug full depth of the shovel, at 4', like butter. we wound up going 9' (under the steps.) Anybody else have an overdig problem already this year?
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:32 AM
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Mike,

Sorry to hear about your bad luck. No overdig problems here in Phoenix this year.....knock-on-wood.

However, we have a line in our contract:

Any excavation needed outside the normal scope of comparable projects will be billed as additional time and materials

has saved my profit a couple of times.

Hope everything works out.

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Old 04-09-2005, 02:30 AM
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i hope you ment 4" inches not 4' feet
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:17 AM
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i hope you ment 4" inches not 4' feet
Four Feet......
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:25 AM
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Rex, we had the money in this one to go 4' (customer changed pavers and had a $400.00 credit) without speaking with the homeowner. However, after 4' and no luck I had to speak with her about the extra charge for time and materials to complete the overdig. I offered her the number of the engineer we work with as well as a phone number for a representative of the block manufacturer in case she wanted a second or third opinion.
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Old 04-10-2005, 01:45 AM
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4' ....holy cow....how new is this house?
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:47 AM
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4' ....holy cow....how new is this house?
Five years old
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Old 04-10-2005, 12:30 PM
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I feel for ya Mike .. I find it's very uncomfortable asking Customers for more money part way into the project .
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Old 04-10-2005, 01:22 PM
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I feel for ya Mike .. I find it's very uncomfortable asking Customers for more money part way into the project .
Absolutely Kris. I don't like it either. However, I'm not running a charity, so there is no alternative. That's why I explain why I feel it is necessary and offer second and third party verification.
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Old 04-10-2005, 01:32 PM
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Oh no ..Im not blaming you ...was just sharing my feekings on having to do that.
I ran into it when we were doing a a patio last season ..... old farmers field at a new place in the country ...must have been at least 2-3' of good topsoil before we hit acceptable sub base.
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