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Old 06-03-2006, 01:02 AM
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do you use primer? when i was glueing we never used it.
a quick saw cut, deburr with the thumb and finger, glue both ends, stick it, 1/4 turn and move on to the next.

but then again, what do i know?
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:31 AM
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do you use primer? when i was glueing we never used it.
a quick saw cut, deburr with the thumb and finger, glue both ends, stick it, 1/4 turn and move on to the next.

but then again, what do i know?
I don't use Primer with IPS 725 on 1.25" and smaller pipe.
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:58 AM
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I don't use Primer with IPS 725 on 1.25" and smaller pipe.
Pressure or non-pressure lines?
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Pressure or non-pressure lines?
Pressure.

Haven't we already discussed this?

IPS 725 is great stuff.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:02 PM
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So is Plumb Tite. But I'm not about to start skipping priming it.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:14 PM
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I recall some neighbor of a job I was finishing fiddling with his DIY install of Rain Jet heads (weird flow/distance adjustment on the all-brass heads) and strolled beneficently over to take a peek. Guy asked me to look at the indoor plumbing. No backflow that I can recall. Zone valves in the basement. Leaky glued connections. Seems he listened to his electrician friend who never primed his sch 40 conduit connections. Maybe the electricity doesn't escape, but the water was doing a pretty good job of it. Epoxy putty was smeared over a lot of the bad connections, in a vain attempt to stop the drips.
(If they'd only had Leakender 2000 back then )
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:56 PM
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like i said im not trying to pretend to be a pvc expert, but in my brief stint as an installer in florida i asked the manager,dont you need primer? nah he said, just glue. i forget the brand, i know we would use christies in the rain.

i installed about 100 systems with them before i came back north. but they have been going for years.
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Old 06-03-2006, 09:27 PM
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I think the success of primer-less gluing depends on your specific situation. Down South, I could envision every new install's pipe and fitting being fresh and clean and good to go. No cut-rate glues, either. Move a thousand miles or so north, and the pipe might be some material left over from last year, really in need of some cleaning up. Same deal if you have to repair some old work. Just no point in getting T&M and not using primer. Some of those nested tees I use come up a wee bit short on glueable surface area, so I figure the primer can only help.
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:22 PM
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Guess the end of this thread will go down as the "Great Primer Wars" thread.

It's BBQ and time for me so "discuss" on.
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:40 PM
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i thought it was strange but who was i to argue? ive done a few athletic fields and repairs up here, and always used primer. but they didnt even have a can kicking around the van. mains, manifolds, s x s valves everthing no primer. glueing in the pooring rain (florida afternoon t-storms) mud all over the pipe and everthing, just glue it and stick. 2 systems a day 5-6 days a week, just kept going. those communities down there, thousands of houses basically the same 65 psi 15 gpm. spray zone in the front, spay zones down the sides, rotors in the back and a drip zone.
we even had the builders put wires in the walls for us, a 3wire up to the gutter for sensor and a 7 out at the foundation and they left in poked out of a hole in the garage for the clock.

the designated meter for irrigation outside with a check valve, no plumbing or anything, most of it was reclaim water.

we came in there just like the painters or the ac guys just another phase of the house, no home owners or designing. just get it in and get out.

i wish it were the same here.
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