Rainbird Select Contractor Trip in January.

[hoskm01]

Originally Posted by Green Sweep

I spent $100,000 with Rain Bird and all I got was this lousy shirt....

Youve got to have some points sittin around if you spent 100 G's.


Thanks for the info, Jim.

I am pretty loyal to RB and will continue to be. Only thing they need pretty bad is a large rotary nozzle with adjustable arc. Gotta keep up with the MPRtater.

Very excited, will take pics.

[Green Sweep]

Originally Posted by hoskm01

Only thing they need pretty bad is a large rotary nozzle with adjustable arc. Gotta keep up with the MPRtater.

They are working on it. I too am an MP user but caught a glimpse of whats to come from Rain Bird. Do not know when it will come out but I think that it will finally challenge the MP.

[JimLewis]

Yah, they are working on the variable arc thing. They'll get it out soon. They've actually been working on that for years.

But the current RB Rotary Nozzles are every bit as reliable and work great, in comparison to the MPs. They just aren't adjustable, so you have to stock more of them. I know, it's PITA. I got a whole toolbox with little sections for each size.

But it's the same way with the U-Series nozzles. I could install VANs and reduce my stock of nozzles down by 2/3. But U-Series nozzles save 30% because they are so much more efficient. So I still use them because it's smart and saves my customers a lot of money. And that's a huge selling point.

Anyway, they are working on that. But I hear you. I prefer the MPs to the rotary, just because of the adj. arc. But I use the RB Rotaries because they still work great and RB hooks me up!!! My sense of loyalty is very strong.

[JimLewis]

By the way, they've also got some other really kick-a$$ stuff that they are going to debut this year, in terms of controllers. I have already installed 4 of them as beta tests. Friggin' AWESOME! And that's about all I can say about that.

[Wet_Boots]

Is Rainbird coming out with a rotor as reliable as the R-50 was?

[Green Sweep]

Originally Posted by JimLewis

But the current RB Rotary Nozzles are every bit as reliable and work great, in comparison to the MPs.

I agree. I actually think that the Rain Birds have a better spray pattern. My sticking point has been the arc adjustment. They had samples of the "new" nozzles at a round table discussion. I had to sign a "non-disclosure" so that also is about all I can say about that!

[hoskm01]

I do like the Rotary nozzle, as long as I can fit one to the plan. I like 30 feet too, RB only goes 24.

[JimLewis]

Well, if you are going 30 ft., it's about time to switch to real rotors. The 5000 PRS is a very water-efficient head that will go down to 30'. And if you combine a 5000 PRS with a MPR Nozzle, you're REALLY starting to get very efficient. So the Rotary isn't really necessary at that range. I guess, unless you just have a low pressure situation or are trying to stretch out your zones.

[hoskm01]

Originally Posted by JimLewis

Well, if you are going 30 ft., it's about time to switch to real rotors. The 5000 PRS is a very water-efficient head that will go down to 30'. And if you combine a 5000 PRS with a MPR Nozzle, you're REALLY starting to get very efficient. So the Rotary isn't really necessary at that range. I guess, unless you just have a low pressure situation or are trying to stretch out your zones.

For older system renovations, thats where I like the big dogs.

We took out 550 rotors last year and replaced wth 6" MPRtaters. Needed about 10 4000's, not out yet. Customer saved 8k in water bills last 3 months of the season.

Im a big fan of the 5000, especially with the PRS. Prob my favorite head.

[Tom Tom]

Originally Posted by JimLewis

By the way, they've also got some other really kick-a$$ stuff that they are going to debut this year, in terms of controllers. I have already installed 4 of them as beta tests. Friggin' AWESOME! And that's about all I can say about that.

..........esp-smx?