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Old 07-18-2009, 01:01 AM
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To answer the OP's question, yes, fertilizer IS toxic to dogs and babies. So is water if too much is ingested.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:05 PM
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Informational letter for all customers

attached is a general use letter I send out at the beginning of each season to help my customers with their concerns regarding fertilizers, children and pets. This is a general form letter and does not cover specific applications or chemicals but usually is all that is needed. If more information is needed I provide copies of MSDS, product information and calculations when needed.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:05 PM
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To answer the OP's question, yes, fertilizer IS toxic to dogs and babies. So is water if too much is ingested.
Finally somebody with a correct answer. It amazes me that guys who supposedly know the business they are in would not know the this simple answer. It also amazes me that those who suggest an organic fertilizer as " less toxic " than say a synthetic fertilizer can even suggest such a thing. I'm sure the intent was legit. But, the facts are it's bad advice. Eat some organic fert and I can assure you that you will have some reaction. I realize the original post is a few years old. I hope some common sense has finally prevailed. Perhaps educating ones self is the proper thing to do before applying anything.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:20 PM
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Finally somebody with a correct answer. It amazes me that guys who supposedly know the business they are in would not know the this simple answer. It also amazes me that those who suggest an organic fertilizer as " less toxic " than say a synthetic fertilizer can even suggest such a thing. I'm sure the intent was legit. But, the facts are it's bad advice. Eat some organic fert and I can assure you that you will have some reaction. I realize the original post is a few years old. I hope some common sense has finally prevailed. Perhaps educating ones self is the proper thing to do before applying anything.
I concur, but there are a lot of folks who either haven't taken the courses or weren't paying enough attention to 'em.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:58 AM
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that crap is toxic for everyone man. I know people who have gotten bone cancer due to weed whipping with shorts and the fertilizer getting on their skin and scrapes on their legs.
No, you do not. You just made that up.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:46 AM
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Finally somebody with a correct answer. It amazes me that guys who supposedly know the business they are in would not know the this simple answer. It also amazes me that those who suggest an organic fertilizer as " less toxic " than say a synthetic fertilizer can even suggest such a thing. I'm sure the intent was legit. But, the facts are it's bad advice. Eat some organic fert and I can assure you that you will have some reaction. I realize the original post is a few years old. I hope some common sense has finally prevailed. Perhaps educating ones self is the proper thing to do before applying anything.
Organic Fert like - corn meal - is toxic!?!?? Throw your Corn Flakes away, Mr. Common Sense intellectual. Alfalfa meal, Soybean meal, Compost, can all be consumed w/out consequense. Don't eat Milorganite though.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:45 AM
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Organic Fert like - corn meal - is toxic!?!?? Throw your Corn Flakes away, Mr. Common Sense intellectual. Alfalfa meal, Soybean meal, Compost, can all be consumed w/out consequense. Don't eat Milorganite though.
You're missing the point - which is that ANYTHING in excessive amounts can be toxic.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:02 PM
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All fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides are poison. Nitrogen alone wreaks havoc with run off to the environment. MSDS Labels for a particular product are just that, for that particular product. Read the labels. Almost all say no "potential" carcinogen. No or low "relative" toxicity. The chemicals are looked at in isolation in terms of relative toxicity and being carcinogens. Reality is we as applicators don't just use one chemical. All of us, applicators, customers and the general public are exposed to the compound affect. One chemical in and of itself "may' not be an issue, but in combination with all the other things we are exposed to as humans, the risks increase exponentially. Anyone who denies this or tries to minimize these facts, is BSing, lying or in denial. Chemicals are however an important part of our business'. Most of us would not be able to do what we do without them.

I have been in business 17 years. Having said the above, here in Oregon if the amount of chemicals you use in terms of dollar value for application is 10% of your gross or less, and you don't advertise weed or pesticide control, you DO NOT need a license. All the chemicals I use are not restricted use so I do not need a license which is a given. One cannot get restricted use without a license. I fall into the above category for no license needed. I use 6 chemicals on a regular or seasonal basis: Roundup (7gal.), Speedzone(2gal.), Dimension(2,5 gal.), Surflan(2.5 gal.) and Crossbow, less than a gal.. I also use Ad Buff, but it does not come under EPA control. I use about 2 ton of SCU fertilizers and that is the sum total of my chemical use. I don't use any Pesticides as we virtually have no pest issues except for Crane Fly Larvae. Over the 17 years in business I have had a serious infestation of Cranefly Larvae on less than 1% of my customers.

I thoroughly research everything product I use. I read the labels and MSDS on all the products. I also have a very knowledgeable rep at Simplot that I can call on at anytime for any reason on any product.


I also live in a relatively rural area. I more than understand when you have a big population and don't want the everyday idiot running around and hazardously applying or even using chemicals. Although chemical use is an issue here in terms of the environment and runoff, the greatest issue is farm use. The quantities farmers use, how they use them and the subsequent run off is doing nasty stuff to the environment, particularly ground water and wells. Farmers are not regulated very strictly and get away with a lot. In time, I am sure as the population increases, a pesticide/herbicide applicator's license will be required.
hi fellow OREgon guy some on this lawnsite forums will disagree about you don't need a license to apply general use pesticides, but i myself have been trying to tell some folks on different places here the same things you just said but some just can't believe it .
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:21 PM
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Organic Fert like - corn meal - is toxic!?!?? Throw your Corn Flakes away, Mr. Common Sense intellectual. Alfalfa meal, Soybean meal, Compost, can all be consumed w/out consequense. Don't eat Milorganite though.
I guess you just can't understand the point here or you refuse to. So lets take it nice and slow for you to understand. You folks in Wisconsin make a lot of cheese. In fact I understand your state is known for it's cheese production. Take that cheese and eat it in excessive amounts it's "may" cause ill effects. Eat bad cheese ( toxic ) and you might get really sick. Eat cheese in normal portions and you probably will be ok. Whether or not you favor an organic fert program is really not significant. The facts are that just about anything can be "toxic" in excessive amounts. Toothpaste can be " toxic " and children die every year from eating it. I also would add that I have used organic fertilizers and would never say that were " safe ". In fact my attorney would advice against such a statement. In fact, here in Michigan it is illegal for us to say any of the products we use are non-toxic.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:29 PM
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Don't eat Milorganite though.
Yea, I've heard it tastes like SH!T
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