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Old 08-23-2007, 08:47 PM
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Ground pearcing, boring, drilling

Yep, first post, just found the site.

Would like to know what others are using to get under driveways, sidewalks, through stone etc.

I was going to purchase a piercing tool from DitchWitch but found out the cost of the air compressor. After picking myself up off the floor, I promptly reconsidered. I had no problem paying the cost of the tool. Renting air is an inconvenience.

Your comments and feedback are appreciated. Links to you product would be nice if available too.

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Old 08-23-2007, 10:30 PM
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Welcome!
Under driveways I sub out to irrigation guys.
Under sidewalks I had a piece of steel made to pound a sleeve underneath.
These are also made by a company and sold as the "sidewalk sleever"
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the welcome.

I am familiar with the Sidewalk Sleever. But have not tried it, yet.

http://www.sidewalksleever.com/index.php
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:14 PM
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I'm sure your situation and ground is different from ours, but around these parts we can usually get away with a water jet unless we are dealing with pavers. 3/4" PVC with a water hose connection will get us under most sidewalks and driveways up to about 20' with no trouble at all. But, here in N. Florida the ground is so soft and sandy I guess we are the exception. Most others probably have a much more difficult situation to deal with like clay, rock, granite, etc...
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:40 AM
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I use the sidewalk sleever and it works pretty well if you can get under the gravel base for the concrete walk. Usually can pound one through in about 2-3 minutes after you excavate each side. Sleeves with 1" conduit.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:30 AM
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We dont have a lot of sidewalks or paved driveways around here... but I do know the President of this company personally... The Big Shot is a great tool for getting under things... Check it out at: http://www.footagetools.com/index.ht....htm&mainFrame

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Old 08-24-2007, 10:17 AM
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Have been using the water jet method, sometimes real messy and worst thing is it can create cave-ins.

Chris, how do you go under paver's without a possible cave-in ?

James, I wanted that type of tool but the air demand is quite large, needs a constant 25 cfm.

http://www.ditchwitch.com/dwcom/Product/ProductView/143

Here is another I have looked at also.
http://www.borit.com/index.cfm

Thanks for all your feedback.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:25 AM
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Amazing how a great idea gets copied so quickly! As I understand it, this technology had been used by the Russian oil and gas industry fro a long time... then my friends company saw it, how simple and effective it is, and developed the "Big Shot" here in Canada.... A few years later and they seem to be everywhere!

I have seen these work and they are fabulous... certainly worth the cost of renting a commercial compressor for the day.

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Old 08-24-2007, 01:22 PM
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The sidewalk sleever is a good tool. I just finished a job where I used it. This was a very difficult job. This was a house on the Columbia river VERY rocky soil. It was a challenge but it worked. It took me three tries to get the sleever through - my conduit kept splitting. This was back breaking work. I was using a 16 lb sledge hammer. The sleever would only move a hair on each hit if I was lucky. I was really getting frustrated. After 2 tries spending half a day trying to get through. I couldn't think of any other solution so I tried one more time and it worked. With the amount of force I was hitting the sleever with and the resistance I was getting I am amazed the third try succeeded. I don't think anything else could have worked better.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:12 PM
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Have been using the water jet method, sometimes real messy and worst thing is it can create cave-ins.

Chris, how do you go under paver's without a possible cave-in ?

James, I wanted that type of tool but the air demand is quite large, needs a constant 25 cfm.

http://www.ditchwitch.com/dwcom/Product/ProductView/143

Here is another I have looked at also.
http://www.borit.com/index.cfm

Thanks for all your feedback.
Jana,
As I mentioned in my post, we use the water jet for anything EXCEPT pavers. I would never use water under pavers under any circumstance. When it comes to paver driveways, I sub the work out to a guy here that uses the same type of equipment that James mentioned. I call it "Jack and Bore" and my guy charges me $8.00 per foot for a 2" bore.
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