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Old 12-06-2007, 11:22 AM
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i dont have issues with the freezing so here the cast tree light is near perfection. yours dont look shabby at all. I do like having it sealed off tho without just a louver to be bent up .
Our Quasar 1 and Lunar do not come witha Siliconed lens. If you want this option make sure you specify. We can silicone it in.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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whats the advantage to no lens ? Are you epecting water to get in and run out ?
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:45 PM
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Billy, how would water get into a fixture that is only meant to be pointed down? There are several manufactures that make lights for down lighting only that have no lens.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:01 PM
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whats the advantage to no lens ? Are you epecting water to get in and run out ?
This could sound bad but yeah. We have tried just about everything to keep water out of the downlights. But for some reason no matter how much silicone or how tight a plug the water will find a way to run down the wire. So on our fixtures like the Lunar and Quasar 1 whcih have longer shrouds we decided to not silicone a lens in and allow the water to just drip out and not pool up. Plus cleaning a lens in a tree can be a real paina nd rarely gets done. We do provide these lights with our lens packs which you just drop the lens to the end of the shroud but they are not sealed in unless you ask for it. We never see a problem with these lights due to not having a lens in them. In areas where snow flurries are common you may want to add a lens with the fear that the snow could blow up the shroud.

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Old 12-06-2007, 05:10 PM
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Water ingress into tree mounted downlights has been the downfall of pretty much every single fixture I have ever tried. Hadco, Nightscaping, Cooper, BK, Vista, Kichler... they all suffer the same issue. The CAST tree light is the only fixture I have found that has not leaked.

As for an open fixture like Unique, well there is NO way that will work here. Bugs, Catapillars, Moths, are constantly looking for homes and nesting places and tree mounted lights are a favourite location for them... Also, with our storms, snow and ice, I want my fixtures sealed to the elements. Ideally I would like to see a tree mounted downlight that carries an IP68 rating (Waterproof). The CAST fixture is as close to perfection that I have ever found.
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:13 PM
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thats not fair... now i gotta go freeze some unique wire and some cast wire in the deep freezer and check the difference out
Please let me know how this test works out. Deep freeze is the Key (-30c) would be ideal. Even my 12/2 wire jacket breaks at around -18c or so.

I have packed it in on that job... We got more snow today and it is just too dangerous to continue... it will have to be finished in the spring.
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:29 PM
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Water ingress into tree mounted downlights has been the downfall of pretty much every single fixture I have ever tried. Hadco, Nightscaping, Cooper, BK, Vista, Kichler... they all suffer the same issue. The CAST tree light is the only fixture I have found that has not leaked.

As for an open fixture like Unique, well there is NO way that will work here. Bugs, Catapillars, Moths, are constantly looking for homes and nesting places and tree mounted lights are a favourite location for them... Also, with our storms, snow and ice, I want my fixtures sealed to the elements. Ideally I would like to see a tree mounted downlight that carries an IP68 rating (Waterproof). The CAST fixture is as close to perfection that I have ever found.
That is why it is an option to have a lens put in it. And not all leak but water just finds a way through some of them
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:00 PM
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To help us get back on topic.........
Here are some new Panoramic photos of the Unique "test home"







The job isnt done but it is getting there.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:30 PM
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Very Nice Joey!
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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Jeez, that is beautiful. Who's the lucky recipient of that lighting job?
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