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Old 08-06-2014, 04:16 PM
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Glare on your subject matter is expected. But in your case the glare is focused on the fascia & not the actual door.
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:32 PM
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Beam glare either way, personally I prefer the light source higher up with the softer beams on the door. However, could be done either way for sure- personal preference. The lamps in those cans are still halogen MR16s with frosted lenses. Switching those to a nicely diffused, wide angle LED may effect the outcome also.

Thanks for the input, I appreciate hearing another point of view on design challenges. Looks like you are new to Lawnsite- Welcome.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:08 PM
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Tim, You are too nice.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:16 PM
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Well, design is a subjective thing. What looks good to one person may not look good to another- and vise versa. That is why we post our portfolios on-line and let our prospects choose which company's design style suits them best.
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Old 08-06-2014, 11:21 PM
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Tim, You are too nice.
Hmmm screenshot of a cellphone picture in complete dark sky

or

Blue sky taken with a dlsr and filtered on lightroom(or similar)



Design is subjective but im still trying to figure out why you would place a high hat for a garage door in the soffit and not over the garage door? The strongest part of the light output is shining onto a 12" tall piece of siding.


I think Tim understood where I was going with this but thanks starry
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:58 AM
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Please explain what a "high hat" is, and how having "it" in a soffit instead or a header, is going to create more hot spots or glare than your solution. Perhaps you can discern the exact depth of the soffits and headers, as well as the many other construction details I overlooked, from my night time photo of the garage door from '70 away. Please post some photos of similar examples of this that you have encountered, and lit "without hot spots" so we can all, perhaps learn "the right way" this should have been done.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:19 AM
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I too am baffled by the terminology that ledeez (nothing good is "eezee" by the way.... Lol) is using here. I thought a high hat was a type of percussion instrument and that a header was an internal framing member in a house. Similarly, fascia typically refers to the trim board that faces you when you look up at the leading edge of a soffit. A trim board that surrounds a door or window is not a fascia, IMO.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:42 AM
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Nice work Tim. Very well done.
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Old 08-08-2014, 07:35 PM
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The header of the garage doors
Thanks for posting- that's a nice example of light placement in a very deep header (10-12")- thanks for posting. Thats a logical choice when they are that deep. The ones in my picture are the width of a 2x4, in fact, they are 2x4s. No room for for cans in my application, in fact, they are so narrow, I wouldn't even be able to mount a 3" can there without compromising the header.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for posting- that's a nice example of light placement in a very deep header (10-12")- thanks for posting. Thats a logical choice when they are that deep. The ones in my picture are the width of a 2x4, in fact, they are 2x4s. No room for for cans in my application, in fact, they are so narrow, I wouldn't even be able to mount a 3" can there without compromising the header.
Hard to tell from the picture. 99.9 percent of the homes we work on the garage doors have a 2"*10" header. A 6 foot span on a 2*4 seems like an engineering disaster but I'm no architect. Tim we started using 1.5" mini recessed fixtures last year and haven't looked back. The brillance mr11 puts out enough lumens for our needs for 1 story or less. Its a real trick setup in shallow soffits
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