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Old 09-05-2007, 08:27 AM
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Electrical Problem in Z-Master

1998 Toro Zmaster 62" 25hp Kohler has a electrical issue that has me stumped. It wont start from ignition (new) but can jumped from solenoid (new) .I have had 2 shops look at this and cant figure the reason out.LMk if anyone has advise besides a 12 gauge into her...
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:39 PM
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Post the full model and serial number off the unit so we can take a look.....
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:32 PM
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Are you jumping the solenoid across the 2 big terminals only?
IF SO, Jump 12V direct to the "small" terminal that comes from the switch. If it then cranks, the solenoid is good and you probably have a safety switch issue.
If it doesn't crank, either the solenoid is bad (click), or it isn't grounded to the frame (no click)
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:13 PM
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I have replaced all but the brake safety and the seat safety switches

model # 74201
Serial # 890590
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OK, I just wanted to take a look at your electrical system, Do you have a test light or multimeter ?


I find it strange that two shops couldn't figure this out....

Can you answer Bills question on how you are jumping it ?

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Are you jumping the solenoid across the 2 big terminals only?
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:38 AM
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OK, I just wanted to take a look at your electrical system, Do you have a test light or multimeter ?


I find it strange that two shops couldn't figure this out....

Can you answer Bills question on how you are jumping it ?
I am learning that a lot of "shop" are little more than "parts replaceres". They just replace part after part until the problems goes away. In fact they will replace the same part 10 times with a care as to why the parts keeps failing.
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OK, I just wanted to take a look at your electrical system, Do you have a test light or multimeter ?


I find it strange that two shops couldn't figure this out....

Can you answer Bills question on how you are jumping it ?

Check post #8 of this thread about jumping the solenoid to help answer Bill's question.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.p...54#post1926254
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:41 AM
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At this time yes that is how we have been getting it started off of both big terminals.Everything is either been replaced except for the harness (but it was checked for any broken or rubbed wires) and the 2 safety switches that were mentioned before...
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And what happens when you complete the rest of the procedure outlined in Post#3?
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:38 PM
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And what happens when you complete the rest of the procedure outlined in Post#3?
I'll be trying the rest on Friday and post outcome...but so we all know I have 2 small terminals...
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