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Old 10-14-2007, 09:05 PM
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Chris is in a coastal area and installs a lot of Kichler aluminum fixtures.

I thought he uses the BBR's????
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:07 PM
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They just came out with the BBRs a couple of years ago.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:23 PM
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Chris has used a whole bunch of Kichler aluminum fixtures over the past 8 years. A quick estimate would indicate that he has over 20,000 fixtures in the ground that are, in fact, aluminum Kichler fixtures. That being said, Chris likes the BR and BBR line much better (now that it is available) in ocean-front applications especially. Even though, Chris still services the systems from past customers on the ocean-front, and the aluminum is still holding up quite well. There have been several fixtures that I have had to replace, mind you, but I am impressed with the overall performance of the powder-coat aluminum that Kichler has provided. Keep in mind that Jacksonville covers over 850 sq. miles. Only about 40 miles is actually coastal.

The moral to this story: Whenever possible, I will use the brass or copper products on the coast. When push comes to shove, however, I know I can revert to the Kichler aluminum to win the bid.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:55 PM
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Chris has used a whole bunch of Kichler aluminum fixtures over the past 8 years. A quick estimate would indicate that he has over 20,000 fixtures in the ground that are, in fact, aluminum Kichler fixtures. That being said, Chris likes the BR and BBR line much better (now that it is available) in ocean-front applications especially. Even though, Chris still services the systems from past customers on the ocean-front, and the aluminum is still holding up quite well. There have been several fixtures that I have had to replace, mind you, but I am impressed with the overall performance of the powder-coat aluminum that Kichler has provided. Keep in mind that Jacksonville covers over 850 sq. miles. Only about 40 miles is actually coastal.

The moral to this story: Whenever possible, I will use the brass or copper products on the coast. When push comes to shove, however, I know I can revert to the Kichler aluminum to win the bid.
I'd like to add a sentence to the above thread: When push comes to shove, however, I know I can revert to the Kichler aluminum to win the bid knowing that the job will be completed sucessfully, and give the client years and years of trouble free enjoyment. If something happens to fail prematurely, however, Kichler will gladly replace it free of charge as part of their "Kichler for Life" Lifetime warranty program.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:02 AM
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Does Kichler 4 life program pay for labor and connectors too?
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:16 AM
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Sorry, but it would be inappropriate for me to divulge what Kichler does to compensate me for labor costs. As far as the connectors go, I don't use the "Quic-Disc", and have had zero probs with the connectors that I do use.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:13 AM
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I wonder if Chris has more or less incidents of aluminum corrosion with stake fixtures in/on the soil vs. gutter & tree mounts up in the air.

My assumption is there is less incidents of scuffing/scratching in the air, keeping the powder coat protecting the fixture. However, I have no idea if the fixture is actually more exposed to salt chrystals? I wonder if Chris has info on which application failure becomes more typical.

The white powder-coat fixture looks great for gutter mounting.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:19 AM
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The white powder-coat fixture looks great for gutter mounting.

brass and copper can be powder coated as well.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:22 AM
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The point of the matter is that you can buy quality aluminum fixtures. You don't have to "STAY AWAY FROM ALUMINUM".
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:25 AM
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The point of the matter is that you can buy quality aluminum fixtures. You don't have to "STAY AWAY FROM ALUMINUM".
If you don't mind them potentially corroding that is depending on your climate.
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