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Old 12-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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Sweet! I love that guy.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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I have an agreement with the owners of my favorite restaurant. My wife makes a special card for the client. It tells them to take it to this restaurant and enjoy a wonderful dinner for 2 with all expenses paid. We cover everything including the bar tab and the tip. So far, they've never spent more than $100!!

I have also taken clients to dinner. This has also been well received and it helps build those relationships.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:41 PM
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You can argue the brass version but that aluminum version would be nothing but a land mine after a while. Especially on a dock where it is definitly going to be kicked and hit by other things causing that powdercoat to chip and then cause the fixture to corrode and deteriorate.

Why would they even bother with an aluminum version knowing that would happen???
By Placing the lamp that close to the ground there is no way to avoid hot spotty lighting. I'd rather fall off a dock of my own power than trip over that stub of a fixture on the ground that is an accident waiting to happen. Better have great liability coverage when installing that one.

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Old 12-06-2007, 06:42 PM
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By Placing the lamp that close to the ground there is no way to avoid hot spotty lighting. I'd rather fall off a dock of my own power than trip over that stub of a fixture on the ground that is an accident waiting to happen. Better have great liability coverage when installing that one.

Better be able to swim as well.....what if it was a young child who tripped?
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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Hundreds installed, never an issue tripping on the INTEGRAliter. It is about the same size as a dock cleat, which have been around and mounted on the edge of docks for years with no problems. Basically, if you venture that close to the edge of a dock you were probably heading in for a swim anyway.

Positioning is important of course, these are mounted on the very edge of the dock so as to light not only the surface in a nice soft spread ( I use a 10W lamp and sometimes a frost lens) as well as grazing the edge of the dock to ease finding and tying up after dark.

Say what you will guys, the product is a hit, is CSA approved for its application, and is very popular with my clients.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:47 PM
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And I assume you power them up with a UL 1563 Pool and Spa rated transformer plugged into a GFCi receptacle. Whose Pool and Spa did you use??

I make one if you need to retrofit!!!
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:50 PM
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James, How far will those babies project the light across the docks? How much seperation do you need between lights ideally to spread it out right? I like the non-glare aspect of those lights. I wonder if you were to put some sort of a fresnel type lense in it, if it would project the light out more than directly under the fixture.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:57 PM
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Better be able to swim as well.....what if it was a young child who tripped?
Joey that's a good point. I couldn't live with myself if I placed a monstrosity that could cause harm to children. I bet it gets so hot that if a child touched it. heaven forbid I don't even want to think about it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:15 PM
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Joey that's a good point. I couldn't live with myself if I placed a monstrosity that could cause harm to children. I bet it gets so hot that if a child touched it. heaven forbid I don't even want to think about it.
Pete... you never cease to amaze me...
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:05 AM
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James, How far will those babies project the light across the docks? How much seperation do you need between lights ideally to spread it out right? I like the non-glare aspect of those lights. I wonder if you were to put some sort of a fresnel type lense in it, if it would project the light out more than directly under the fixture.
It all depends on the application really. I like to use them to delineate the edge of the dock and to act as a navigation,identification and docking aid after dark. It isnt unreasonable to space them on 8' centers but I have many on 12' centers and they work just fine. Sturdy as can be too. I have stepped on them, and even seen boats tied to them with no issues.

I like your idea of using an optical lens to spread the light... could be interesting!
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